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Old 04-10-2012, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Republican-right-moderate-teaparty/2011/07/27/id/405055

Seems to me that the GOP keeps drifting further and further to the right. I think it will backfire on them, as their attitude is "no compromise" and "never surrender" seems a bit silly when it is out of step with most Americans. No one except a true believer would vote for a Palin, Perry, or Bachman, or Santorum to have national power. And no one is going to follow the lead of the Tea Party to protect tax cuts for the wealthiest while cutting the safety nets and general government services. Their idea seem more like a long antigovernment blog rant than a coherent governing policy for a multicultural country that has freedom of speech and many political views. Why has this happened? Has the GOP become the party of the angry old men who listen to Rush Limbaugh all day? I just don't see the logic of hating just about everyone except themselves at home and abroad.

Personally, I think the conservative voice is necessary to call out the left when they go too far, but the Tea Party wing has almost nothing sensible to replace it with. Why are moderates hated so much in the GOP these days? Seems like the two parties accomplished a lot more when rational, cool-headed people co-governed.
Sure we are drifting further to the right, that is why Romney will get the nomination and Santorum is gone, just like Bachmann and Cain plus R. Perry. I think you need to understand the party a little better . Bo
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It only seems to be "drifting further to the right" because the country's once-great Democrat Party has turned into a propaganda ministry for a Marxist.

Liberals don't seem to care that their party, the Democrat party, has excommunicated anyone who is a moderate on any social or fiscal issue from their ranks.
There is no such thing as the 'Democrat' party. It's the Democratic Party. That's the only one that is registered.

Sp go ahead and slam the Democrat Party all you want- since it doesn't exist, you can tag it any old way you want. Feel free to play the fool. We can always use another laugh.
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:21 PM
 
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The drifting to the right comes to play when candidates and people get desperate and somehow forget the REASONABLE positions and start touting mess about gays and abortion.

Those two issues are SO far down the line. Sure, lots have strong issues on abortion but when the bubble in choice is:

A. filling up your tank/having a job or

B. abortion.say no to gay marriage, most SANE people would pick A and B would be an non-entity.
That and when those two issues come into play with manipulation through Christianity. That turns people away real fast.

The sane people which is the majority of the party and people in this country. The miniscule crazies who LOVE and get off on that crap and yell and rant the loudest.
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Sure we are drifting further to the right, that is why Romney will get the nomination and Santorum is gone, just like Bachmann and Cain plus R. Perry. I think you need to understand the party a little better . Bo
If Romney is elected. I may have to post that I was wrong and you were right. We'll see.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I swear I don't remember the GOP being so bad. I was one, but don't think there was so much lying going on. Now we have Christie give a visual meaning to the term, "Big fat lie machine".

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/10/ny...2010.html?_r=1
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:58 PM
 
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http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Republican-right-moderate-teaparty/2011/07/27/id/405055
Seems to me that the GOP keeps drifting further and further to the right. I think it will backfire on them, as their attitude is "no compromise" and "never surrender" seems a bit silly when it is out of step with most Americans. No one except a true believer would vote for a Palin, Perry, or Bachman, or Santorum to have national power. And no one is going to follow the lead of the Tea Party to protect tax cuts for the wealthiest while cutting the safety nets and general government services. Their idea seem more like a long antigovernment blog rant than a coherent governing policy for a multicultural country that has freedom of speech and many political views. Why has this happened? Has the GOP become the party of the angry old men who listen to Rush Limbaugh all day? I just don't see the logic of hating just about everyone except themselves at home and abroad.
Personally, I think the conservative voice is necessary to call out the left when they go too far, but the Tea Party wing has almost nothing sensible to replace it with. Why are moderates hated so much in the GOP these days? Seems like the two parties accomplished a lot more when rational, cool-headed people co-governed.
Uh... and you don't think the democratic party has moved to the left? Occupy Wall St? Redistribution of Wealth? Obamacare?

The Tea Party's main concern is solving the national debt and deficit crisis. I don't really see that as being radical, but maybe that's because I'm a financially responsible person...

If I recall correctly, even JFK lowered taxes and reduced regulations in order to stimulate the economy, but then again, JFK was a conservative radical...

Really, what is happening to this country?
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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The GOP is not drifting to the right, but out to sea. Republicans are hardly conservative. Look who is going to win the Republican ticket; Romney who was leading Santorum. These candidates are not limited state, free market, individual loving conservatives.

Republicans are not conservative, but regressive.
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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The GOP is not drifting to the right, but out to sea. Republicans are hardly conservative. Look who is going to win the Republican ticket; Romney who was leading Santorum. These candidates are not limited state, free market, individual loving conservatives.

Republicans are not conservative, but regressive.
What are you even talking about? Do you have any proof do back up your claims?

How is balancing the budget, vetoing Obamacare, lowering taxes, reducing entitlements and reining in the federal government considered to be "hardly conservative?"
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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What are you even talking about? Do you have any proof do back up your claims?

How is balancing the budget, vetoing Obamacare, lowering taxes, reducing entitlements and reining in the federal government considered to be "hardly conservative?"
You do know that Obamacare is based off of Romneycare. Plus, Republicans are always about less taxes, but then increase spending. Republicans only get half of the equation and Santorum voted much in line with Bush and Romney increased many fees in MA as governor.

You confuse rhetoric with practice and Republicans are hardly conservative; that includes Romney and Santorum and a cursory glance at this record will show.

While Republicans line up in groves to support these two candidates, they refuse to rally behind the most Conservative to come around since Goldwater; Ron Paul. It seems like big-government, war-mongering, anti-civil liberties, corporatist loving Republicans are allergic to anything Conservative.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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Liberals don't seem to care that their party, the Democrat party, has excommunicated anyone who is a moderate on any social or fiscal issue from their ranks.
Why do you insist on lying?

There are quite a few social moderates/conservatives in the Democratic ranks. You might want to let Harry Reid - a pro-life Mormon who wants Roe v. Wade overturned - know that he has been excommunicated and isn't actually senate majority leader.
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