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Old 04-09-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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Seems to me that the GOP keeps drifting further and further to the right. I think it will backfire on them, as their attitude is "no compromise" and "never surrender" seems a bit silly when it is out of step with most Americans. No one except a true believer would vote for a Palin, Perry, or Bachman, or Santorum to have national power. And no one is going to follow the lead of the Tea Party to protect tax cuts for the wealthiest while cutting the safety nets and general government services. Their idea seem more like a long antigovernment blog rant than a coherent governing policy for a multicultural country that has freedom of speech and many political views. Why has this happened? Has the GOP become the party of the angry old men who listen to Rush Limbaugh all day? I just don't see the logic of hating just about everyone except themselves at home and abroad.

Personally, I think the conservative voice is necessary to call out the left when they go too far, but the Tea Party wing has almost nothing sensible to replace it with. Why are moderates hated so much in the GOP these days? Seems like the two parties accomplished a lot more when rational, cool-headed people co-governed.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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I noticed this too. Not only is it wrong in my opinion, I think its dumb as well. They are in trouble this election with all of the candidates far right policies. This should have been an easy win for them over Obama, but due to their stance, I'm not sure anymore. I don't even see a point in voting this election.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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Relax, moderates, the GOP is only drifting right in rhetoric. In reality, it's business as usual.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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I noticed this too. Not only is it wrong in my opinion, I think its dumb as well. They are in trouble this election with all of the candidates far right policies. This should have been an easy win for them over Obama, but due to their stance, I'm not sure anymore. I don't even see a point in voting this election.
You think Romney is "far right"? Do you think Obama is moderate?
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Relax, moderates, the GOP is only drifting right in rhetoric. In reality, it's business as usual.
I do not believe that is 100% correct, otherwise our credit rating would not have been lowered. The no compromise stand they have taken on so many issues will catch up with them over the long haul, I just hope they will have not managed to harm the Nation so much that we cannot turn it around again.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I don't understand.

How is wanting a balanced budget, spending no more than you take in, having a policy of energy independence, having a strong military, protecting our borders....drifting right?

The vast majority of Americans want all that.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You think Romney is "far right"? Do you think Obama is moderate?
Obama has actually turned out to be right of center.

Romney doesn't have a clue what he's supposed to be until his handlers tell him.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:50 PM
 
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It only seems to be "drifting further to the right" because the country's once-great Democrat Party has turned into a propaganda ministry for a Marxist.

Liberals don't seem to care that their party, the Democrat party, has excommunicated anyone who is a moderate on any social or fiscal issue from their ranks.
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Greater Washington, DC
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I would agree that a lot of it is rhetorical, and I do think the GOP is shooting itself in the foot in the long run. Politics is cyclical. It's ok for the GOP now, they probably have a slight popularity advantage over the Dems. But wait until another 2006 rolls around. It will be even more of a shellacking than the Dems had in 2010. The fact is, increasingly more and more Americans are conservative, and more are conservative than moderate or liberal.
Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.
Republicans should be able to maintain a permanent majority if they stick to their conservative principles. Those principles do not include inflammatory rhetoric, hard-right stances, and running Christine O'Donnell-esque candidates. Those principles do include a positive message of small government, jobs, and freedom; the Buckley Rule (running the most conservative candidate electable); and a willingness to compromise on details without compromising your overall principles.
I know it's cliche to say this, but President Reagan exemplified these qualities. He always kept his message positive. He had a bright vision for America, not frothing-at-the-mouth Limbaugh-style fury at the socialist/Muslim/radical Christian/extreme president named Carter. He never compromised his conservative principles, but he did compromise very often with the Democratic Congress on budgets, taxes, and spending cuts. This strategy moved conservatism forward like no other strategy before. Finally, he remembered the Buckley rule, and stated that someone who was 20% his enemy was 80% his friend.

Conservatives bring up Reagan all the time, but many of the farthest right-wing candidates don't exemplify his style at all. If they did, we could win even bigger than in the Reagan years because our country is more conservative than ever.

Americans know liberalism doesn't work and they know conservatism does. This is increasingly the case as years go by. The fact that the Republicans can't capitalize on that over the long term shows that there is a failure in GOP strategy. They need to wake-up and embrace positive, Reagan conservatism before it is too late.
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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It only seems to be "drifting further to the right" because the country's once-great Democrat Party has turned into a propaganda ministry for a Marxist.

Liberals don't seem to care that their party, the Democrat party, has excommunicated anyone who is a moderate on any social or fiscal issue from their ranks.
Clinton was quite moderate and people adore the guy. Obama is a bit further left, but not much. He kisses Wall Street's ass along with the rest, kept the wars going, kept the Bush tax cuts in place, froze federal salaries,etc.

All in all, he sounds like a moderate. I say center left, but many folks think he is actually a moderate Republican.

I have always been moderate, and I have never heard a word about how I am a Democrate In Name Only.
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