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Old 04-11-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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There is no doubt that several factions in the Republican Party want to pull it far right. The 'moderates' (myself included) are trying to retain some sense of rationality in the party, but it may be a losing fight. In all honesty, this is pointing to signs that we should develop another major party in this country - one for the Tea Party and religious right / social conservatives. The remnants of the Republican Party would be the moderates, with some crossover from the center-left Democrats as well.

I would welcome that, actually.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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There is no doubt that several factions in the Republican Party want to pull it far right. The 'moderates' (myself included) are trying to retain some sense of rationality in the party, but it may be a losing fight. In all honesty, this is pointing to signs that we should develop another major party in this country - one for the Tea Party and religious right / social conservatives. The remnants of the Republican Party would be the moderates, with some crossover from the center-left Democrats as well.

I would welcome that, actually.
Barring a serious catastrophe there's not going to be a 3rd major party; the two current parties have engineered it legally such that it's almost impossible for a new viable party to emerge. Even Americans Elect, which is exactly the kind of entity you're calling for, with their billions of dollars, can't get on every state ballot.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: West Egg
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Barring a serious catastrophe there's not going to be a 3rd major party; the two current parties have engineered it legally such that it's almost impossible for a new viable party to emerge. Even Americans Elect, which is exactly the kind of entity you're calling for, with their billions of dollars, can't get on every state ballot.
Not so much that, but our system is just inherently a two-party system.
Duverger's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is why the one-party Era of Good Feelings inevitably ended with the Democratic-Republican Party splintering into two major factions, from which the Whigs arose. And when the Republican Party arose in the mid-1850s, rather than making the United States a three-party system they simply displaced the Whigs.

Both one and three parties were unstable, and eventually stabilized into two-party systems.
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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Swiss $Mitt would have a better shot to get to 270 pounds...
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: NC
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Obama has many good routes to 270 Romney doesn't

Lets start off with the Bush states from 2004 minus NM which Romney will lose. That leaves Romney at 287 and Obama at 251 This means unless he flips a Kerry state, which I think will be extremely difficult, he can only afford to lose 19 electoral votes. If he loses Ohio and nothing else he ties, if he loses Colorado and Nevada or Iowa, he cannot afford to lose anything else. If he loses VA, or NC he cannot afford to lose anything else and if he loses Florida he loses. It is a tough scenario. In which he has to almost sweep states that switched from Bush to Obama in 2008. If he is losing other stuff like GA, AZ, or MO he will not win so it is not even worth discussing.
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