Meet Utah's rising star Mia Love (liberal, Reed, politicians, leader)

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by PhenomenalAJ

Mormons don't care much for women or for blacks.

Good grief. What an idiotic statement.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by wutitiz

Amazing. And she is a treadmill runner and gun owner? Almost too good to be true lol.

Anyway, I am going to be donating to her congressional campaign. 1000 thanks OP, for turning me on.

Ur so welcome.

Im a democrat but Im also sending in a donation cause I like her.

[SNEwx_46]

Originally Posted by PhenomenalAJ

Jim Matheson isn't a saint but hopefully he can beat this whackjob so Utah can have at least one sane politician. Matheson will probably win for the wrong reasons, Mormons don't care much for women or for blacks.

stupid statement.

[lifelongMOgal]

Originally Posted by nmnita

Do you think it is possible just once to look past the white guy won't support the black guy or in this case gal issue? The race card game is getting a little old. A bigger problem might be how hard it is for blacks to accept black conservatives or for libs to accept black conservatives for that matter.
Nita

Thank you. Worth repeating.

[tmsterp]

Originally Posted by moving_pains

Analogy FAIL.

All of us know what Paul stands for. He has 30 years of his voting record to prove it. A serial killer can endorse Paul because he likes Paul's idea of say, withdrawing from the UN, and I will say, great, it's another vote! It doesn't make Paul change his stances. But if Paul was endorsing the serial killer, then that's a cause for worry. We don't know much about Mia Love except what she claims she will do. We know a lot about Paul Ryan. Here, Mia Love isn't endorsing Paul Ryan, it's the other way around. Now you see why your analogy is crap?

How is that an analogy fail? I have liberal friends who have endorsed Ron Paul. They stand for liberalism and make no secret of it. Yet they have endorsed Ron Paul. Everybody who knows them knows what they stand for. Sounds like the same exact situation

[Bruin Rick]

Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy

I'm not a conservative I think her personal story is great. She might make a decent run for Congress.

The bigger question if she has aspirations for statewide office will White Republican voters in Utah accept a Black woman as a candidate and especially one in a marriage with a White man? Now that is a REALLY interesting question to me.

However the whole "Rising Star" thing is a bit over the top. Let her win a congressional or statewide election THEN she'll be a rising star.

Utah is mostly Mormons and they generally are not racist anymore these days. They used to be racist, in fact blacks could not join their church or marry a Mormon until recent years but I think hundreds of years of being bullied, murdered and ran out of one state after another probably taught the Mormons that picking on other people isn't so cool after all.

[Bruin Rick]

Originally Posted by nmnita

I would buy what you are saying if you didn't bring color into so many of your postings.

bTW I probably know more about the Mormon faith than you would ever begin to know. But what was 30,50 or 100 years ago, isn't today. We all need to realize everything changes.

I will agree with you on the state of Utah and the percentage of whites,but isn't that what makes this entire post so very interesting?

The Mormons have actually changed in regards to race. They actively court blacks now and even have missions in places like Hati and Jamaica.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by moving_pains

Trust is a big thing in our eyes. Ron Paul has spoiled us so much that we expect nothing but unadulterated purity from any potential candidate. Ideology MATTERS, trust MATTERS, courage MATTERS...

Paul Ryan is a vile warmonger. If we don't trust A and if A endorses B, then guess what? Now we don't trust B either. It's called logic and reasoning.

I was actually supporting Mia Love before this (and so was a lot of other Paul supporters). But seeing that Josh Romney and Paul Ryan are backing her, I withdraw my support and will spread the word that she is a likely tool.



This is exactly the problem - Collectivism. You support her because she is a black female Mormon, and not because of her policies. I bet you are eager for the GOP to vote for Mia Love to prove that they are not racists. If she was an atheist and a lesbian too, you could have killed a couple more birds with that stone. Disgusting.

where in the devil did I say I support her because she is anything? I truthfuly know nothing about her. I did say, I think it is wonderful to see someone like her running. I don't support or pull my support for any candidate based on religion, color, sexual orientation of family background. I vote based on the candidate coming closest to sharing my views on issues.

Nita

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Bruin Rick

The Mormons have actually changed in regards to race. They actively court blacks now and even have missions in places like Hati and Jamaica.

Hello, that is part of my point. How the Mormons viewed life in the past and now are totally different. My point on this is simply, she is a new and fresh idea in Utah. I didn't mean they do not accept blacks, but you don't see many black conservatives period, and to see one is Utah is ratrher new. I realize there have been changes over the years, but it takes along time for many to accept these changes or recognize therm.

[PhenomenalAJ]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Good grief. What an idiotic statement.

Originally Posted by SNEwx_46

stupid statement.

Thank you so much for these scintillating debates, I'd think I'd traveled back in time to the Lincoln-Douglas debates Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhs, Wiccans and even Scientologists have never specifically prohibited black people from serving in their clergy, Mormons did until 1977 until they had a "revelation from God" and changed their rules, same as they did with polygamy, all coincidentally coinciding with changing mores and laws I think it's sad that a black person would hate themselves enough to be a Mormon and accept that their own god thinks them inferior.