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Lol, you certainly can't defend the mess Obama has made of the economy. That is why we haven't heard a possitive word about Obama from you. There isn't much to say.
Romney and the state legislature cut $1.6 billion from the 2004 budget and generated more than $500 million by raising fees and closing corporate tax loopholes -- actions considered tax increases and called out as such by Grover Norquist.
Massachusetts businesses got a 20% tax increase.
Mr. Norquist regards the changes as tax hikes.
“They changed the laws and the rules to significantly raise taxes,†he said. “That is a tax increase.â€
Why do liberals assume we care what other prominent right-wing figures think? I don't care about Limbaugh, Norquist, anyone. He can call it whatever he wants. Norquist also says he trusts Romney to be a conservative president on taxes, but I don't care that he said that either. I don't know any conservative personally who talks about which candidates have signed Norquist's Taxpayer Pledge and which ones haven't, because, in spite of what the media tells you, we judge candidates on our own.
The GOP has never been against closing loopholes. Romney has never been against closing loopholes. Most GOP figures in Congress and the Senate have called for closing loopholes in the corporate tax code. This is completely consistent with what the party and Romney have been supporting. Get over the fact that Norquist is not the head of our party, Limbaugh is not the head of our party, Coulter is not the head of our party. If anything, the de facto head of our party is Governor Mitt Romney. Norquist can call it whatever he wants. I guess by Grover's definition the GOP has been supporting tax increases. Even ones who have signed his pledge. So be it then, we'll have to agree to disagree on our definition of tax increases, though I find it humorous that you like Norquist's definition so much. Either way, there's no room for differentiation between the parties on this issue since they both support closing those loopholes.
Why do you post so much about Romney? Why don't you tell me why I should re-elect Obama. I love how you tell us we need to defend our candidate, which by all reasonable standards we have done so in this thread and others quite successfully, but you don't even attempt to do that for Obama.
Why do liberals assume we care what other prominent right-wing figures think? I don't care about Limbaugh, Norquist, anyone. He can call it whatever he wants. Norquist also says he trusts Romney to be a conservative president on taxes, but I don't care that he said that either. I don't know any conservative personally who talks about which candidates have signed Norquist's Taxpayer Pledge and which ones haven't, because, in spite of what the media tells you, we judge candidates on our own.
The GOP has never been against closing loopholes. Romney has never been against closing loopholes. Most GOP figures in Congress and the Senate have called for closing loopholes in the corporate tax code. This is completely consistent with what the party and Romney have been supporting. Get over the fact that Norquist is not the head of our party, Limbaugh is not the head of our party, Coulter is not the head of our party. If anything, the de facto head of our party is Governor Mitt Romney. Norquist can call it whatever he wants. I guess by Grover's definition the GOP has been supporting tax increases. Even ones who have signed his pledge. So be it then, we'll have to agree to disagree on our definition of tax increases, though I find it humorous that you like Norquist's definition so much. Either way, there's no room for differentiation between the parties on this issue since they both support closing those loopholes.
Why do you post so much about Romney? Why don't you tell me why I should re-elect Obama. I love how you tell us we need to defend our candidate, which by all reasonable standards we have done so in this thread and others quite successfully, but you don't even attempt to do that for Obama.
I do hope that our elected officials care more about what their constituents want to have happen than what Mr. Norquist, et. al. expect from them.
Perhaps if more people stated their feelings to their representatives as eloquently as is stated above, Mr. Norquist and the rest wouldn't get so much attention or wield so much power.
For the record, I don't agree with much of anything Mr. Norquist has to say.
The fact remains, though, that what Mr. Romney did in MA did result in tax increases and increased revenue. If he gets elected, and can get away with doing the same as president, I say more power to him. We definitely need the revenue.
Why do liberals assume we care what other prominent right-wing figures think?
I'm not certain. Ask a liberal.
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Why do you post so much about Romney?
I think he believes Republican's are idiots. Posting anything about Romney attracts Republicans and allows me to examine whether or not they're idiots.
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Originally Posted by tmsterp
Why don't you tell me why I should re-elect Obama. I love how you tell us we need to defend our candidate, which by all reasonable standards we have done so in this thread and others quite successfully, but you don't even attempt to do that for Obama.
I don't care to examine reasons why you should re-elect the President.
You're certainly welcome to start a thread discussing this issue.
You're correct.
I have absolutely no compulsion to defend anyone unless I deem it appropriate.
Because you think I should is worth less than the second it took to read and consider your opinion.
Would Romney go against his pledge and raise taxes on US Corporations?
What pledge is that?
Since you are asking the question, you must have some opinion on the matter. Care to share them with us?
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