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Old 05-02-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Is forward to Socialism the same as backwards to capitalism............... seems so.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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And infatuated with Mussolini.

I heard "Imagine" by Lennon was his favorite song.
Use more bait and less hook next time you go fishing.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Is forward to Socialism the same as backwards to capitalism............... seems so.
If your keyboard is blind, perhaps. You know, the one capitalism invented, manufactured and made available for you to purchase with money earned via capitalism. See any trends yet???

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Old 05-02-2012, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I heard "Imagine" by Lennon was his favorite song.
No Comrade, I believe it was "Back to the USSR."
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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In your black and white world maybe. Its nice to see your position stated in stark terms


"ugh ugh left good, right bad ugh ugh


Forward until you hit the solydra wall or sell guns to Mexican criminals. Not everything you stand for is "progress"

progressive




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Is forward to Socialism the same as backwards to capitalis"dm............... seems so.
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I know the Perpetually Indignated Right is hard pressed for material, but this is stupid even by their standards.

Here's a socialist for you:



Are you scared?


Let's look at Obama and his beliefs, his ideology. Let me put the description of Communism by the communist party below.

The CPUSA constitution and program
According to its 2001 Constitution, the party operates on the principle of democratic centralism, its highest authority being the quadrennial National Convention. Article VI, Section 3 of the 2001 Constitution lays out certain positions as non-negotiable:
"struggle for the unity of the working class, against all forms of national oppression, national chauvinism, discrimination and segregation, against all racist ideologies and practices… against all manifestations of male supremacy and discrimination against women… against homophobia and all manifestations of discrimination against gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people…"[50]
Among the points in the party's "Immediate Program" are a $12/hour minimum wage for all workers, national universal health care, and opposition to privatization of United States Social Security. Economic measures such as increased taxes on "the rich and corporations", "strong regulation" of the financial industry, "regulation and public ownership of utilities", and increased federal aid to cities and states; opposition to the Iraq War and other military interventions; opposition to free trade treaties such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA); nuclear disarmament and a reduced military budget; various civil rights provisions; campaign finance reform including public financing of campaigns; and election law reform, including Instant Runoff Voting.[51]
[edit]Bill of Rights socialism
The Communist Party USA emphasizes a vision of socialism as an extension of American democracy. Seeking to "build socialism in the United States based on the revolutionary traditions and struggles" of American history, the CPUSA promotes a conception of "Bill of Rights Socialism" that will "guarantee all the freedoms we have won over centuries of struggle, and also extend the Bill of Rights to include freedom from unemployment"– as well as freedom "from poverty, from illiteracy, and from discrimination and oppression."[52]
Reiterating the idea of property rights in socialist society as it is outlined in Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto,[53] the Communist Party emphasizes that
"Many myths have been propagated about socialism. Contrary to right-wing claims, socialism would not take away the personal private property of workers", but "the private ownership of major industries, financial institutions, and other large corporations, and the excessive luxuries of the super-rich."[52]
Rather than making all wages entirely equal, the Communist Party USA holds that building socialism would entail "eliminating private wealth from stock speculation, from private ownership of large corporations, from the export of capital and jobs, and from the exploitation of large numbers of workers."[52]


Communist Party USA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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  • Vorwärts! (which is German for 'Forward', with an exclamation point as part of the name) was a revolutionary German emmigration publication issued in Paris during the 1840s. Karl Marx and Fredrich Engels were amongst the contributors to the magazine.
  • A second Vorwärts (without exclamation point) was founded in 1876, being an organ of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, avowed socialists.
  • Avante!, is the official newspaper of the Portuguese Communist Party
  • Avanti!, is the daily newspaper for the Italian Sociality Party
  • Eteenpäin, is a Finnish-language newspaper for the USA Communist Party.
  • Új Előre ('New Forward'), a Hungarian-language newspaper in the US, was also a publication for the USA Communist Party.
Is anyone beginning to see a pattern yet? For almost 200 years socialist and communist publications have been using "Forward" for their mantra, in multiple different countries, and now it is Obama campaign slogan for 2012.

Is anyone surprised?
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:16 PM
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Wisconsin's State Motto is "Forward". What is the problem?

Exactly, it is obvious that the conspiracy to turn America into a socialist, secular, Islamic Caliphate is even more advanced than we thought.
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:18 PM
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Let's be frank - if he'd made "Ice Cream" his motto, the deep thinkers at Townhall would have found socialist connotations. I don't know if the campaign is deliberately pushing the Far Right's buttons to make them say stupid things, but it almost doesn't matter.
Ice Cream, that sounds vaguely Soviet and Communist, eh comrade.
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:19 PM
 
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No Comrade, I believe it was "Back to the USSR."
Interesting note: In his final years, Lennon used to confide in an associate that he was all wrong with his liberal bent, and was a strong conservative. Of course, he was always surrounding himself with opulent possessions, so in action, and later in words, he was a capitalist and conservative just like Dr. Martin Luther King - lifelong Republican, BTW.

BTW, the USSR went Kaput (German for "dead" or teats-up)
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