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Was Richard M. Nixon a Closet Marxist: Forward Together
46th Inaugural Theme, ‘Forward Together’ and its Marxist-Socialist-Communist origins reveal
What follows is a selection of images from the “Forward Together” inaugural theme which begs the question? Was Richard M. Nixon a closet Marxist? What about the use of “Up With People” combined with the “Forward Together” in the inaugural float? Here we not only combine the Marxist “Forward” but “People” as in the People’s Republic of China.
Imagine not being able to buy food, pay bills and even go bankrupt due to the health care system... no need to Imagine... it is a fact of today's American health care.
NO ONE in the UK is not able to buy food because of the NHS. NO ONE ever goes bankrupt because of the UHC. NO ONE has to decide between paying bills or paying for health cover in the UK. NO ONE has to have health cover incorperated in their job and yet EVERYONE in the UK has health cover.
The Govt. in the UK does what we vote them in to do.......... do the best for the Benefit of EVERY citizen... NOT just the wealthy.
So if you want to imagine not being able to buy food because money is taken away from the poor, look no further than the shores of the USA where not only do the big corporations take, take, take from our taxes and out of our pockets everyday, they also now brainwash the gullable here to think that they are doing them a big favour in "ripping them off"..... Big corps are for Big corps no one else......... This is shown oh so well with the over expensive health care system that fails millions. Health care in the USA used to be looked at as awesome years ago.... now it is not even looked at because it does nothing except make the rich richer and the poor sicker.... PATHETIC!
So you enjoy living there, better than you would in, say, the US. Should we join you there?
And delivers 4 times the healthcare in quantity and quality. Ever notice where the people under UHC goe when they really need HC, and can afford to pay for it. YUP. countries like the US that accept cash.
Hah, no! Why would you think that?
You could say that UHC systems deliver health care roughly 4 times as efficiently. As a rough measurement. But 80 000 people go to America for health care every year, and between 1 000 000 and 1 500 000 Americans leave the country for health care every year. Sometimes for the UK. It is one of the most brutal humilliations of a system by citizens voting with their feet the world has ever seen.
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Originally Posted by Beatles4evr
So you enjoy living there, better than you would in, say, the US. Should we join you there?
Most people think working to improve your country when you find it flawed is bette than bugging out.
So you enjoy living there, better than you would in, say, the US. Should we join you there?
I am now a American Citizen and that gives me the right to want to see America being a great nation once again for ALL who live here.
Maybe instead of this how dare anyone criticize any failings in America attitude because WE know best... YOU should be the one to go overseas and see what's out there and then you could be in a position to compare different ways of doing things. This is one of the reasons that America has now become the last great bastion of Corporate greed on this planet, because most Americans do not realise there is a far better way to do things than the current get rich corporate way disguised as Capitalism but is actually corporate fascism. Do you ever wonder how many millions or more it costs the big corporations to line the pockets of law makers or the millions a very few spend in "superpacs" to get their man or woman elected so that they can control the "market".... you probably don't and that is because you think that this is normal............ NOT anymore and that is why immerging markets are overtaking America, because they know how to combine Capitalism and Socialism and aren't like the one legged man of America.
I know exactly how a Govt. funded UHC works and how it performs and to what cost to every citizen. Govt. funded health care works in every other country that has implemented it with great success.
I would now like to know your experience with a socialistic health system and any other countries you have lived in to know how sociaism fails.
America has had socialism for a number of years and all i hear is the panic fueled moaning of some here about socialism creeping into America.... too late it's here but America calls it "bail outs" and only "freeloading" when money is actually given to the needy.........
Was Richard M. Nixon a Closet Marxist: Forward Together
46th Inaugural Theme, ‘Forward Together’ and its Marxist-Socialist-Communist origins reveal
What follows is a selection of images from the “Forward Together” inaugural theme which begs the question? Was Richard M. Nixon a closet Marxist? What about the use of “Up With People” combined with the “Forward Together” in the inaugural float? Here we not only combine the Marxist “Forward” but “People” as in the People’s Republic of China.
Nixon handed South Vietnam to the Red Chinese? I didn't know that. Of course, many of us know that the Red Chinese backed the NOrth Vietnamese people but I surely didn't know about this part that this Little Green Footballs writer talks about.
Are you saying that the movement by Obama is ok since Nixon did the same thing? Another of those accusations based on your boy did it so it must be ok for ours to do the same thing.
You could say that UHC systems deliver health care roughly 4 times as efficiently. As a rough measurement. But 80 000 people go to America for health care every year, and between 1 000 000 and 1 500 000 Americans leave the country for health care every year. Sometimes for the UK. It is one of the most brutal humilliations of a system by citizens voting with their feet the world has ever seen.
Most people think working to improve your country when you find it flawed is bette than bugging out.
I can't rep you again, but I wanted to say thanks for your many great posts.
I am now a American Citizen and that gives me the right to want to see America being a great nation once again for ALL who live here.
Maybe instead of this how dare anyone criticize any failings in America attitude because WE know best... YOU should be the one to go overseas and see what's out there and then you could be in a position to compare different ways of doing things. This is one of the reasons that America has now become the last great bastion of Corporate greed on this planet, because most Americans do not realise there is a far better way to do things than the current get rich corporate way disguised as Capitalism but is actually corporate fascism. Do you ever wonder how many millions or more it costs the big corporations to line the pockets of law makers or the millions a very few spend in "superpacs" to get their man or woman elected so that they can control the "market".... you probably don't and that is because you think that this is normal............ NOT anymore and that is why immerging markets are overtaking America, because they know how to combine Capitalism and Socialism and aren't like the one legged man of America.
I know exactly how a Govt. funded UHC works and how it performs and to what cost to every citizen. Govt. funded health care works in every other country that has implemented it with great success.
I would now like to know your experience with a socialistic health system and any other countries you have lived in to know how sociaism fails.
America has had socialism for a number of years and all i hear is the panic fueled moaning of some here about socialism creeping into America.... too late it's here but America calls it "bail outs" and only "freeloading" when money is actually given to the needy.........
I haven't seen the US being a socialized medicine nation before this attempt by the progressives. When were we so great because we once had that kind of medicine? You said great once again and that implies what I have said.
If you can't see that bureaucrats are in charge of everything to do with medicine from who can practice to who I can use as my main doctor then you are very much in favor of bureaucrats making that determination for me.
There are many things that work some places and not others along with many that some accept from knowing nothing else. When did the British establish UHC? Wasn't it about 1956? How many people under 55 have ever lived under any other system? You haven't so of course you know nothing else, but want to push it on those of us who have lived with something else.
I hear so much talk about single payer health care but never see anyone who supports that kind of thing admit that when you get all the money from the government the government isn't completely in control. You have tried very hard to point out that British people have created many things to do with medicine but I have to wonder if Americans have only been sucking along because they don't have UHC or single payer government monopoly. Maybe we need to get into mine is better than yours argument about new developments. I sure don't want the government to determine where my doctor practices and how much money she can make. That does go on in the UK, doesn't it?
Nixon handed South Vietnam to the Red Chinese? I didn't know that. Of course, many of us know that the Red Chinese backed the NOrth Vietnamese people but I surely didn't know about this part that this Little Green Footballs writer talks about.
Are you saying that the movement by Obama is ok since Nixon did the same thing? Another of those accusations based on your boy did it so it must be ok for ours to do the same thing.
Sarcasm goes over your head...huh? The point is that your Beck inspired threads hold no water. Just more propaganda. Obama is not the first to utilize the word "Forward". As I pointed out in a previous post...it's Wisconsin's State slogan...Beck has not mentioned that...has he? Just as he never mentioned this Nixon thing.
I haven't seen the US being a socialized medicine nation before this attempt by the progressives. When were we so great because we once had that kind of medicine? You said great once again and that implies what I have said.
America was great because after WW2, there wasn't a lot of serious competition economically, and that allowed America to get away with stuff that doesn't stand a chance in an environment with economic competition.
Like pissing away 17 % of GDP on health care when other first world nations average 8 % and get as good or better results. The whole military is 4 % of GDP fer chrissake! Wasting twice that becuase people doesn't want to admit that America can learn stuff from other countries is not an option any more!
What the hell happened to the America who took stuff form other countries and made it viable/commercial successes? Cars. Manned flight. Etc.
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Originally Posted by roysoldboy
If you can't see that bureaucrats are in charge of everything to do with medicine from who can practice to who I can use as my main doctor then you are very much in favor of bureaucrats making that determination for me.
Well, that is what you've got. And unless it gets changed, you're stuck with it I think. Getting the level of medical control of your health care I see in Europe is going to take some serious alteration of the American system.
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Originally Posted by roysoldboy
There are many things that work some places and not others along with many that some accept from knowing nothing else. When did the British establish UHC? Wasn't it about 1956? How many people under 55 have ever lived under any other system? You haven't so of course you know nothing else, but want to push it on those of us who have lived with something else.
Actually, quite a large number of people have lived under several systems. I've lived under the British NHS, the Norwegian system, the American one. Many people have a lot of experience with several systems.
And have you noticed how everyone who has, has a rather disillusioned impression of the American system? And the people trying to support it always bring up "My aunt", "my cousin", "this person I met in a bar" etc ?
And the fact is -UHC systems work in every other country. Its not something that work only some places, its worked everywhere its been tried.
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Originally Posted by roysoldboy
I hear so much talk about single payer health care but never see anyone who supports that kind of thing admit that when you get all the money from the government the government isn't completely in control. You have tried very hard to point out that British people have created many things to do with medicine but I have to wonder if Americans have only been sucking along because they don't have UHC or single payer government monopoly. Maybe we need to get into mine is better than yours argument about new developments. I sure don't want the government to determine where my doctor practices and how much money she can make. That does go on in the UK, doesn't it?
No? Why on earth would you think that?
There is public education for everyone in America. Does that mean that the government is completly in control of education? Does the government decide where all the teachers practice and how much they are paid? Does the government decide which teacher every kid gets?
Why on earth would you think health care would be different?
Ken, like me, sees something in the fact that Forward has been the slogan of several others before we even knew who Prince Barack was. Since many here haven't seen this story about those others maybe now would be a good chance to do so. I really wonder why the Obama supporters took a chance on Forward as their campaign slogan. Maybe they think they are safe and won't be seen as doing what they want to do.
***The reason Socialists always proclaim Forward! as their slogan is that they never want you to look at their record. Don’t look back at the wreckage of the economy and the dangers to liberty. Just keep marching together, Forward! indeed.***
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