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Old 05-18-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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wow,, a kid with the symbol of fascism and communism on his shirt
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The more Kerry spoke, debated, etc. the more he sounded like an out of touch rich guy who had lived with a limitless amount of money for the vast majority of his life.

Sound familiar?
You're comparing apples and oranges. Bush's approval rating was 53% on Election Day among actual voters according to exit polls (and was 50%-51% in most polls right before Election Day). Yet Bush still only got 51% of the vote...even against Kerry. He underperformed his approval rating as a percentage of the vote when running for re-election, as did Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, Ford, etc. Carter was able to overperform his approval rating but he still lost in a landslide.

Kerry came very close to winning and would have if Bush had even very slightly less support. Also, Romney's favorability has increased quite a bit over the past month to two months and he's talking at least slightly more now.

Obama's approval is at best 47%-48% depending on the polls you're looking at. And that's among registered voters/adults in most cases. Republicans/Republican-leaning independents are more likely to vote (we even saw this in 2004...which was actually a relatively high turnout election year among Democrats/Democrat-leaning independents due to an anti-war sentiment), so his approval rating among likely voters is probably closer to 45%.

Can Obama get his approval ratings up? It depends. He might be able to, but economic circumstances that - at this point - he cannot really do anything to change before the election and could go either way could keep him from being able to and/or he could continue to mess up. But it's very unlikely that he would be re-elected with approval ratings like he has unless third parties have a VERY good year.

And before you say that Romney needs to win OH and PA to win the election like you have been saying over and over again, they are tied in two of the three most recent polls in Ohio that I'm aware of and Obama has gotten over 50% in maybe one Ohio poll. Furthermore, Obama's approval in OH is certainly not 50% according to most polls. W won twice without PA either time so I don't know why you think Romney needs PA to win. And if states like WI are in play, that would most likely mean Romney has nothing to worry about in OH.

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Old 05-18-2012, 12:52 PM
 
Location: NJ
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You're fired-Jason X

All you need to know directed at those who can only comprehend the complexities of the economy if it is sung at them and has a catchy rap tune.

Hopefully WI will put the Dems and their union keepers to rest once and for all much to the relief of the taxpayers.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The more Kerry spoke, debated, etc. the more he sounded like an out of touch rich guy who had lived with a limitless amount of money for the vast majority of his life.

Sound familiar?
Yeah, big difference. Kerry married most of his wealth...twice.

Romney is self-made.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Slip sliding awayyyyyyyy..

Wisconsin recall slipping away from Democrats - The Washington Post

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All three polls out this week show Walker leading Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett (D) by between 5 percent and 9 percent. Perhaps more illustrative, though, are the candidate’s personal favorability and approval numbers.

Despite all the attempts by Democrats and organized labor to turn him into the bogeyman, Walker’s job approval and favorable rating both remain in positive territory, at right around 50 percent.
Let's cross out fingers and get out the VOTE for Walker!!

What a great victory it will be for not just Walker and WI, but for the nation as a whole......this will be a monumental defeat and repudiation of the dems/libs across the nation.
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Old 05-19-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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I love it when the mindless union hacks try to claim Walker is responsible for losing jobs in Wisconsin. These are the same people that are falling over themselves claiming that Barry Obama can't possibly be held accountable for anything because of the "mess" Bush supposedly left. Yet in Wisconsin these same imbeciles blame Walker for everything bad under the sun after less than two years in office. Hypocritical pigs anyone?
Pigs? PIGS? Wait just a minute, buster! Pigs are cute and sweet and make lovely pets. They are also extremely intelligent.

Do not, I repeat, do NOT insult pigs that way.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:38 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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people are no longer fooled by the hope and chains crowd. all those independents probably wont vote for obama come November. democrats and republicans cannot win an election without winning over the independents.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Marquette Law School Poll Shows Walker, Kleefisch Lead in Recall

So the other day a PPP poll (Democratic pollster - and the poll was done for the Daily Kos no less) came out that had Romney and Obama statistically tied in WI.

Now an additional poll has come out - this time a Marquette Law School poll:

Romney 46, Obama 46 - among likely voters

Wisconsin is a TOSSUP - and Obama won it by 14 points in 2008!

Also, there's even more for the unions to be unhappy about as this is the third poll (at least the third poll that I'm aware of) that has come out over the past few days showing the hero for hardworking Wisconsin taxpayers - Governor Walker - with a clear lead over Tom Barrett in the recall election.

Governor Walker 50, Tom Barrett 44

Also, Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch is leading her opponent - Mahlon Mitchell - 47-41.

Additionally, more WI voters want to maintain the new collective bargaining laws than want the changes reversed.

Too bad, so sad for the unions. We will all have to cry for them.
Scott Walker has done a good job thus far in Wisconsin it's only natural Romney would reap some of the benefit.
High Noon in Wisconsin | The Weekly Standard
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By virtually every objective measure, Walker has been an extraordinarily successful governor. In just 16 months, the state has erased a $3.6 billion budget deficit, and according to figures released this month by the Wisconsin Department of Revenue, it will have a $154.5 million surplus on June 30, 2013. Property taxes, which had risen by more than 40 percent since 1998, are down for the first time in years.

The unemployment rate is down from 7.7 percent when Walker took office in January 2011 to 6.7 percent in April 2012. Last week, the state’s Department of Workforce Development released numbers showing that Wisconsin had gained some
23,000 jobs in 2011—correcting a misleading earlier report suggesting the state had lost more than 30,000 jobs over the same period.

The subjective measures look good for Walker, too. On the stump, Walker is fond of citing Chief Executive magazine, which had ranked Wisconsin as the 41st-best state for business in 2010 and now ranks it 20th. Walker also points to a survey by Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce that found only 10 percent of business owners thought the state was headed in the right direction in 2010, while an eye-popping 94 percent think so today.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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Maybe Walker will run after Romney finishes his second term as president in 2020.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Whoops...

We recommend Walker; his removal isn't justified - m.JSOnline.com
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