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He can't even win the nomination, how does he have a better chance to beat Obama?
From a financial perspective. MR has next to no small individual support.(12%) RP and BO are 44% small individual.
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If you buy into polls.
RP polls well against BO, sometimes better. Between he and Mitt, there is not much polling diff against BO. Overall BO does better.
Regarding "nomination", RP has been making some effective progress based solely on grass roots.
If the choice is BO or MR, I don't really care. BO might be a bit better because it would give the R's another chance in 2016.
RP polls well against BO, sometimes better. Between he and Mitt, there is not much polling diff against BO. Overall BO does better.
Romney polls far better than Paul against Obama and Romney and Obama are now basically tied in the polls, with Romney leading in many. Paul has led Obama in very few polls.
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Romney polls far better than Paul against Obama and Romney and Obama are now basically tied in the polls, with Romney leading in many. Paul has led Obama in very few polls.
Ron Paul beats Romney in polls and beats or ties Obama in polls.
Ron Paul beats Romney in polls and beats or ties Obama in polls.
Ron Paul beats Romney in what polls?!?!?!? Certainly not GOP primary polls. Do you mean general election polls? If so, please post them. FYI - Romney isn't going to be running against Ron Paul in the general election.
Romney leads Obama in two and ties him in one of the most recent eight polls listed. Obama leads by 1.7% in the average of the polls - that's basically a tie.
The kind of changes you are talking about is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Minor policy differences the media is touting as major contrasts.
I don't want to tinker with the tax code. I want to abolish the IRS altogether, because taxation is theft.
Romney started being "critical" about Bernanke after Paul started talking about it. I am impressed that Romney knows what the Fed is, but we want to abolish the Fed altogether at some point. Romney does in no way wants to abolish the Fed.
I see no difference in Romney's and Obama's foreign policies (maybe they disagree on using a helicopter vs. a plane to drop bombs?), and again they are different from Paul's - interventionist vs. non-interventionist.
So yes, Obama = Romney, sorry to break it to you. You don't compare a 400lb person with a 401lb person and try and point out how different they are, when there is a 100lb person sitting in the room.
I will start getting amazed at Romney's differences with Obama when he adheres to at least one conservative principle. You never know, if he felt he might get some mileage out of it, he might get severely conservative and go after pornography or sign an EO to kill gays or something. Well, that's a start for a liberal and he might even get some hurrahs from the Christian Taliban.
P.S: Romney has been on camera saying he is a moderate and that his views are progressive. How can I disbelieve the earnestness in that voice?
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but the Founding Fathers gave Congress the authority to levy tax for a reason. If anyone who stops short of ending taxation is a liberal, then fine, Romney is a liberal. I guess we don't disagree then on Romney's classification, you just seem to draw e line quite far to the right. If you think the difference between Obama's out of control spending and a balanced budget is just minor, or "rearranging the chairs on the titanic," then fine. But there is no economist who would agree with you that there is no significant difference between $0 deficits and $1 trillion+ dollar deficits
If you think President Obama's budget and Paul Ryan's budget (which Romney has embraced) are the same thing then again, you are entitled to your opinion. But you're not going to find many people who agree with you.
I won't debate their differences on foreign policy too much, though I still think you are exaggerating their similarities. But while they differ on many major issues, they do have the same guiding philosophy. And I agree with it.
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but the Founding Fathers gave Congress the authority to levy tax for a reason. If anyone who stops short of ending taxation is a liberal, then fine, Romney is a liberal.
The taxation issue is a very good example of why a majority of Americans will never agree with the Ron Paul lovers - they are absolute extremists and completely unwilling to compromise. No taxes? Taxation is theft? Seriously? No taxes = no government. No government = anarchy. I want less taxes and smaller government. I do not want no government. The vast majority of Americans do not want no government. Why can't the Paulbots comprehend this?
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Ron Paul beats Romney in what polls?!?!?!? Certainly not GOP primary polls. Do you mean general election polls? If so, please post them. FYI - Romney isn't going to be running against Ron Paul in the general election.
Romney leads Obama in two and ties him in one of the most recent eight polls listed. Obama leads by 1.7% in the average of the polls - that's basically a tie.
Obama leads Paul in every one of the most recent six polls listed and by 8.2% in the average of the polls.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...171.html#polls
I don't give the polls much credit, however, I donot see where Romney is doing much better than RP. All of those MCM polls overall show BO polling much better than either RP or MR. The recent gain MR seems to show has been only recently. (Look at the graph trend.) So I wouldn't give it that much weight. MR's near lack of small indi support is really odd.
I know the polls seem to be important to you, but dismissing financial support would seem a mistake to me.
Uhh...Obama is not polling much better than Romney. They are basically tied. Obama is polling much better than Paul...he is 8.2% ahead of Paul in the average of recent polls according to RCP. Check out the link again - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1750.html
And Romney's recent gain is to be expected, given that now everyone knows he's going to be the nominee and Republicans are coalescing around him and also now that Romney is starting to reach out to voters other than Republicans and now that the campaign against Obama has started.
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read an exit poll lately?
