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Old 05-23-2012, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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Republicans have long used the "tax-and-spend" trope as a cudgel against Democrats. That's happening again this election season. But, as White House Press Secretary Jay Carney pointed out to reporters riding Air Force One Wednesday, asserting that President Obama has been on a spending spree is a GOP talking point utterly in conflict with the facts.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:27 PM
 
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The above quote comes from here.
Not sure your point. Spending took off and spiked to an all time high in 09 (43%GDP), then settled back a bit(40%GDP). It is planned to continue to grow and expand like it always has.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/recent_spending

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Old 05-23-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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The above quote comes from here.
Already been disputed and proven wrong, but I still think its funny that the left blames the GOP for Congress not getting anything done, and then tries to take credit for an imaginary flattening of the spending..
 
Old 05-23-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Golden, CO
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Not sure you point. Spending took off and spiked to an all time high in 09 (43%GDP), then settled back a bit(40%GDP). It is planned to continue to grow and expand like it always has.
USGovernmentSpending.com Recent Spending Briefing
Your chart must be outdated and must have made predictions based on old data, as the last column for which it has actual spending data is 2009.
 
Old 05-23-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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Your chart must be outdated and must have made predictions based on old data, as the last column for which it has actual spending data is 2009.
Actually no because your chart tries to attribute Obama spending in 2009 on Bush, but Obama was president, and Obama signed most of the 2009 spending bills.
 
Old 05-23-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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Your chart must be outdated and must have made predictions based on old data, as the last column for which it has actual spending data is 2009.
That site has huge amt of data. In a "user friendly" format. That is why I use it.That is one of many charts. Information all comes out of govt "official" numbers.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/percent_gdp

-5yr -1yr Fiscal Year 2012 +1yr +5yr

Government Pensions 7% GDP
Government Health Care + 7% GDP
Government Education + 6% GDP
National Defense + 6% GDP
Government Welfare + 4% GDP
All Other Spending + 11% GDP
Total Government Spending 40% GDP
Federal Deficit + 9% GDP


 
Old 05-23-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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Here's another fun one.
http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/
 
Old 05-23-2012, 04:22 PM
 
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Hueffenhardt, although your stats are wrong, why are you even claiming that Obama has reduced spending? Wouldn't that send your leftist brethren into a rage? Don't you want more spending, more government, not less? As much as I expect the fiscal conservatives to be mad at Obama's spending, I expected that this might earn Obama major brownie points within your own socialist clique. Or does the Obama campaign, at this point, started thinking that the people are concerned about the debt? I am stupefied.

P.S: Yes, Bush spent like crazy too.
 
Old 05-23-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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Hueffenhardt, although your stats are wrong, why are you even claiming that Obama has reduced spending? Wouldn't that send your leftist brethren into a rage? Don't you want more spending, more government, not less? As much as I expect the fiscal conservatives to be mad at Obama's spending, I expected that this might earn Obama major brownie points within your own socialist clique. Or does the Obama campaign, at this point, started thinking that the people are concerned about the debt? I am stupefied.

P.S: Yes, Bush spent like crazy too.
Thats the part I dont get either.. If massive spending in 2009 was Bushs fault, but massive spending helped to stimulate and jump start the economy, then wouldnt this mean that Bush helped to stop the economic collapse and Obama didnt do a dam thing?

Tell me why I should vote for him again?
 
Old 05-23-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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spending under obama has flattened out? So then....uh....him asking for a debt ceiling increase every year is just a ploy to make us think he's an ignorant ass?
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