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Old 05-31-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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As I said in my first post. Just look at Mecklenburg county NC which is Charlotte and Suburbs. (I know NC better then I do any other state.)

At the end of 2010 there were 276,000(D) and 172,000(R) There were Now there are 284,000(D) and 174,000(R) Democrats are out-registering Republicans there by about 4:1.

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Thats not what I asked. If you are going to write off Democrats becoming Republican because of a competative primary, and not people leaving the Democratic Party because they are unhappy with it, then you need to show me where people have returned to being a Democrat after the primary.

Furthermore, if you look at the TOTALS from your link,
5/26/2012 you have 2.738M Democrats vs 1.977R
But go back 1 year and you get 2.713M Demorats vs 1.929M Republicans

Thats a 25K increase in Democrats vs a 50K increase in the GOP, for a 2-1 margin of Republicans registering over Democrats.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: NC
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Thats not what I asked. If you are going to write off Democrats becoming Republican because of a competative primary, and not people leaving the Democratic Party because they are unhappy with it, then you need to show me where people have returned to being a Democrat after the primary.
Just look at the 2012 Michigan primary, or any other open primary at the numbers of Ds voting in it and you can see my point. People do the same in closed primaries as well by changing affiliation and PA has a closed primary.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:31 PM
 
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Just look at the 2012 Michigan primary, or any other open primary at the numbers of Ds voting in it and you can see my point. People do the same in closed primaries as well by changing affiliation.
Whats your point?

The link you provided a minute ago actually proves you wrong.

Look at the TOTALS from your link,
5/26/2012 you have 2.738M Democrats vs 1.977R
But go back 1 year and you get 2.713M Demorats vs 1.929M Republicans

Thats a 25K increase in Democrats vs a 50K increase in the GOP, for a 2-1 margin of Republicans registering over Democrats.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Thats not what I asked. If you are going to write off Democrats becoming Republican because of a competative primary, and not people leaving the Democratic Party because they are unhappy with it, then you need to show me where people have returned to being a Democrat after the primary.

Furthermore, if you look at the TOTALS from your link,
5/26/2012 you have 2.738M Democrats vs 1.977R
But go back 1 year and you get 2.713M Demorats vs 1.929M Republicans

Thats a 25K increase in Democrats vs a 50K increase in the GOP, for a 2-1 margin of Republicans registering over Democrats.

Competitive Primaries are always going to increase the edge registration wise for the side that has the Primary. It has pretty much always happened. Both in the Dems favor and the GOP.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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Competitive Primaries are always going to increase the edge registration wise for the side that has the Primary. It has pretty much always happened. Both in the Dems favor and the GOP.
So your argument now is that these people love Obama but are registering Republican just so they can contribute?

Is that why the 7 people in question on the thread switched as well?
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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Whats your point?

The link you provided a minute ago actually proves you wrong.

Look at the TOTALS from your link,
5/26/2012 you have 2.738M Democrats vs 1.977R
But go back 1 year and you get 2.713M Demorats vs 1.929M Republicans

Thats a 25K increase in Democrats vs a 50K increase in the GOP, for a 2-1 margin of Republicans registering over Democrats.
This is pointless you are obviously being purposefully obtuse since you keep asking for proof that an active presidential primary gets people to register for that party and everytime it is presented you say what's the point. If you don't understand this then I can't help you. As I said in key suburban counties like Mecklenburg democrats are growing. If you look at state wide of course you are going to see more GOP registrations because there was an active GOP presidential primary until about a month and a half ago. If you look at 2007 to 2008 you see the same thing for Dems and if you compare 2007 to 2012 you see about a 300K increase for dems and a 70K increase for Rs.

As I have said this entire night and for the 10 millionth time you are taking a very tiny snapshot and trying to make hay out of it while ignoring the longterm trends.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:44 PM
 
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This is pointless you are obviously being purposefully obtuse since you keep asking for proof that an active presidential primary gets people to register for that party and everytime it is presented you say what's the point. If you don't understand this then I can't help you. As I said in key suburban counties like Mecklenburg democrats are growing. If you look at state wide of course you are going to see more GOP registrations because there was an active GOP presidential primary until about a month and a half ago. If you look at 2007 to 2008 you see the same thing for Dems.
I didnt at all ask for proof that presidential primaries get more people registered, I asked for you to show me how everyone who is switching to become a Democrat, can be simply explained away by presidential primaries.

I know dam well that 2007/2008 seen the same thing, but those facts actually dispute your own argument.

I simply stated the obvious, that this election people are registering GOP, or switching their registrations, and you are now validating what I said to be true. With all of these new GOP registrations, why do you think the 7 individuals in this thread is an isolated incident? Remember Smash said this was only because its Mississippi, I proved otherwise.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yes. Your party has been hi-jacked by the radical Progressive/Socialists. The good guys are waking up and jumping ship.

Welcome aboard the S.S. Sanity aka Republican Partisanship!
This is just another indication how far the democrat party has lurched to the Left. They are so far from the honest to goodness mainstream of this country. People like Sean Penn and Danny Glover, lovers of dictators and despots, represent what the Left in this country has become.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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So your argument now is that these people love Obama but are registering Republican just so they can contribute?

Is that why the 7 people in question on the thread switched as well?
No. What I said is prior to a competitive Primary you are always going to have some type of jump in registration for the side having the competitive Primary. This has ALWAYS happened. Its not new to 2012, the changes were much more prominent in 08 than they are now, but it was nothing new to 08 either. It has ALWAYS happened.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: NC
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I didnt at all ask for proof that presidential primaries get more people registered, I asked for you to show me how everyone who is switching to become a Democrat, can be simply explained away by presidential primaries.

I know dam well that 2007/2008 seen the same thing, but those facts actually dispute your own argument.

I simply stated the obvious, that this election people are registering GOP, or switching their registrations, and you are now validating what I said to be true. With all of these new GOP registrations, why do you think the 7 individuals in this thread is an isolated incident? Remember Smash said this was only because its Mississippi, I proved otherwise.
Sorry for ninja editing but as I said take the long view rather then the there are now 300K more democrats in NC then there were 5 years ago and only 70K more republicans. If you look beyond one or 2 years which involve a primary the trend is clear. People switch parties because they want to have a role in making history by choosing a candidate. If it is no contest on one side people are going to flock to the other side because they like choices.
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