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Old 07-03-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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Poll: Romney Leads Obama By 5 In North Carolina | TPM Livewire

This is from the liberals' beloved Talking Points Memo.

The poll was done for a conservative organization (the Civitas Institute), but it was conducted by SurveyUSA.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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SurveyUSA is right leaning, read Silvers grades for poll bias in the future.

He may be up 1 to 2 points, that is it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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SurveyUSA is right leaning, read Silvers grades for poll bias in the future.

He may be up 1 to 2 points, that is it.
LOL...

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Survey USA has a house effect that leans Democratic of 2.4 points...according to Nate Silver.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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Its for a conservative group who tells them the questions to ask. The bias of the poll has to do with the company who is asking the questions. Pollsters simply recite the questions.

Im not arguing the fact Romney leads in NC. Market numbers show that right now. Its not 5 points. Its also a state Obama can afford to lose.

Obama actually should be targeting VA.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Look at the current RCP map. 221 Obama 136 toss up 181 Romney.

if I was Obama I would focus on the following states: Virginia, Wisconsin, Colorado, Michigan and New Hampshire(although I think Iowa could replace New Hampshire. Those states combine for 52-54 evs, meaning if he wins them all he finishes at 273-275 range.

not to mention Ohio, Florida, Nevada where you can flip a coin basically right now.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Poll: Romney Leads Obama By 5 In North Carolina | TPM Livewire

This is from the liberals' beloved Talking Points Memo.

The poll was done for a conservative organization (the Civitas Institute), but it was conducted by SurveyUSA.
I'm not sure why you are so excited by this. I don't know many Democrats who were expecting to win NC in 2008 and I don't know many that (realistically) expect to win it in 2012. Compete and force Romney to spend some time there? Absolutely. North Carolina may be moving more liberal, but it's still North Carolina. There are no Democratic strategists out there thinking "if we can just take North Carolina we will have this thing sewn up"
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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Who cares about NC

Willie needs OHIO or he's TOAST.



Meet V.P. PORKMAN...
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:23 AM
 
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I am hoping this trend continues in North Carolina as well as the other swing states where Romney is leading and we add even more.
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Old 07-05-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Poll: Romney Leads Obama By 5 In North Carolina | TPM Livewire

This is from the liberals' beloved Talking Points Memo.

The poll was done for a conservative organization (the Civitas Institute), but it was conducted by SurveyUSA.
How about this
Gallup: Obama leads Romney on likability by … 29 points « Hot Air
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Look at the current RCP map. 221 Obama 136 toss up 181 Romney.

if I was Obama I would focus on the following states: Virginia, Wisconsin, Colorado, Michigan and New Hampshire(although I think Iowa could replace New Hampshire. Those states combine for 52-54 evs, meaning if he wins them all he finishes at 273-275 range.

not to mention Ohio, Florida, Nevada where you can flip a coin basically right now.
Actually, no Republican in recent times has won without either Ohio or Florida. That's why Obama is in Ohio today.

N. Carolina is not a state that Obama is expecting to win and if he did win it, he would have been likely to have won closer marginal states that would bring him over the top anyway, making NC unnecessary.

Virginia's demographics has changed making it more Democratic leaning.

Note that Obama is now leaning (although this early means nothing) in Florida, in 3 out of 4 polls:
Tight in Florida | weaskamerica.com
Presidential Swing States (FL, OH & PA) Poll * June 27, 2012 * Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania Sw - Quinnipiac University – Hamden, Connecticut
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ase_FL_605.pdf
http://www.purplestrategies.com/wp-c...urple-Poll.pdf
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