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Old 07-18-2012, 10:25 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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First off, that's not how deficits work. Obama has added some (stimulus, and not actively seeking repeal of tax cuts) but most of that number is directly related to Bush policies that we are still living with like tax cuts, wars, and the recession.

You're right about Clinton. He shouldn't get a pass for his roll in the housing bubble and passing of laws that helped enable the financial meltdown.

Personally I think fully implemented ACA will be third rail program 20 years down the road and will be a milestone accomplishment. For this election however...

Also, this Administration's foreign policy work has been stellar. I know it's the team around him, like Clinton, but the repair of relations in Europe, how we handled Libya, finally calling-out Pakistan, and getting Bin Laden are not minor accomplishments.
Really, and Obama doesn't get nearly enuff credit for any of this. It's also nice to see adults at the helm of 21st century U.S. foreign policy again, instead of belligerent chicken hawks, or worse some impetuous "cowboy" (that even his dad always had to warn to 'cool it')!
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Obama can only win debates on his record if he's related to the moderator. Oh wait, they are all kissing cousins. I'm actually surprised he agreed to any debate.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Obama's major communication problem is that he has nothing left to say, and cannot talk about anything he has done. The major legislative "accomplishment," the Affordable Care Act, is so unpopular that his supporters hate the term "Obamacare." Economic confidence is plunging, faith in government spending has been shattered, and the man has no clue about the connection between employers and employment.

I think he will have a great deal of trouble with Romney in the debates.
For having nothing to say or not being able to talk about anything he has done, Obama has managed to be pretty danged effective in getting things accomplished while stuck with a House majority that has strongly opposed every single issue.

Do I hate the term Obamacare? Hell, no! I hope that title lasts forever! It is a great testament to the only President who managed to get the most needed thing in our society passed!
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Obama SUCKS when he can't use his Teleprompter.

He went off the teleprompter when he said businesses in the USA didn't become successful all alone.......a line he's going to live to regret!
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Obama can only win debates on his record if he's related to the moderator. Oh wait, they are all kissing cousins. I'm actually surprised he agreed to any debate.
Aren't you gonna be late for your Klan meeting....?
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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For having nothing to say or not being able to talk about anything he has done, Obama has managed to be pretty danged effective in getting things accomplished while stuck with a House majority that has strongly opposed every single issue.

So in 2008-2010 when Obama had the White House, House of Reps, and the Senate all in his corner, what did he accomplish with his "laser-like focus on jobs"?

Answer: NADA
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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Aren't you gonna be late for your Klan meeting....?
The KKK was founded and populated by Southern DEMOCRATS.

Just as late as you are for your Communist Party of America Meeting.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:36 AM
 
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So in 2008-2010 when Obama had the White House, House of Reps, and the Senate all in his corner, what did he accomplish with his "laser-like focus on jobs"?

Answer: NADA
Since when does 49 days equal 2008-2010?
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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Since when does 49 days equal 2008-2010?
When Obama was elected, the DEMOCRATS had complete control of both houses of Congress.

It was only in 2010 that Republicans took the majority in the House only.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Oh please.

The recession started when the Democrats were in control of congress and if we are honest, we will point out that the foundation for the recession was poured under Clinton where we saw the:

1) Housing Market Bubble get born
2) The Dot Com Bubble burst in his final months in office
3) NAFTA
4) China most favored status
5) Fake surpluses

What has Obama done that is so fabulous? Adding more debt in 3.5 years than Bush in 8 years?
All points that may be debated, Moon. And all are valid, too.

But there's nothing in your post about how you expect Rmoney will bring them on, or if he will. Nothing about how you think he will do against Obama, either.
We can deflect this topic into a debate among ourselves, but that won't provide any useful outcome to the topic's question.
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