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Old 07-18-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I am so tired of watching these two go at it as if they were fighting in the school yard. Even the news is reporting on who is winning the school yard fight. What's the next step down - the sandbox? then the crib where they can reach into their diapers and throw poo at each other? This is a race for the Presidency, not a pi$$ing contest. Where is their dignity?

I am embarrassed for the US that the world gets to see how they are carrying out their campaign. It is alleged that they are both intelligent people. I would like to see one or both of them start applying that intelligence. Being President requires dealing with other nations and nation building. Is/will this be the same behavior applied when dealing with other countries? If not, and they show restraint and respect to other countries, how about showing some restraint and respect for their own country?

All I see is the creation of division of people in this country by the two of them, rather than bringing this country together. When are they going to start acting like grown ups and start addressing, in detail, the REAL problems that the country has and exactly how they plan to address them? When are they going to start talking about what they will do for ALL the people of this country. Isn't it their job to serve ALL the people, not just some?

I don't care who has money and who doesn't. What I care about is who capable of being President and what they would hope to do to get this country united and get the country and the people on the right path to recovery.
This happens during every presidential election year. Where the hell have you been?
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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This happens during every presidential election year. Where the hell have you been?
How many presidential elections have you lived through? I get that it "happens" but when it is the theme of a campaign there is something wrong. Candidates got their little snide remarks in when campaigning, but the amount of time spent by these two with the name calling and mud slinging is just unreal.

When Kennedy was running for President his opponents didn't base their campaign on the fact that the Kennedy's father was a bootlegger. The people knew it, it was in the press, but it wasn't used to "make points" by his opponents during the campaign.

There was a time when the office of President was highly respected. It appears that as time goes by that respect is deteriorating.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Imo, it started when Bill Clinton and George Bush campaigned for the presidency with the help of our once respected media.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Not tired of Obama's obvious superiority

Romney comes from an entirely inferior stance. He's an inferior man with an inferior ideology, being propped up by ungodly sums of money. He doesn't belong on this stage and can't hold a candle to this great President Obama. Romney for instance would not have been able to get bin Laden, or cause change in Libya without submerging this country into war. He would not have been able to stop a Bush-decimated economy from going into a Depression. He cannot address Civil Rights. He is clueless on the economy. He does not favor the middle class, the working class, the blue-collar, and those who are not privileged. He is not embraced by blacks and hispanics. He is not a visionary, not someone who could exact change.

So, no, I never get tired of watching Obama demonstrate his obvious superiority. The "debate" is not really one at all.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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1) Barack Obama has been a miserably divisive President. Nothing comes out of his mouth without actually targeting another group of American's. Why is he targeting fellow citizens, as if he actually has disdain for them and their success?

2) Mitt Romney has not been divisive at all as far as I can tell. I've not seen or heard anything that effectively places a bullseye on the back of a collective group of Americans. I'm certainly open to anyone pointing out a group of American citizens that Mitt Romney has targeted with consternation and disdain. Can you do it?
No one can counter my claims?

The silence is deafening.

It would be nice if liberals and Democrats would step forth and admit that their Chosen One has been very divisive and a huge mistake for this nation. Who can logically deny it?
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:16 PM
 
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Romney comes from an entirely inferior stance. He's an inferior man with an inferior ideology, being propped up by ungodly sums of money. He doesn't belong on this stage and can't hold a candle to this great President Obama. Romney for instance would not have been able to get bin Laden, or cause change in Libya without submerging this country into war. He would not have been able to stop a Bush-decimated economy from going into a Depression. He cannot address Civil Rights. He is clueless on the economy. He does not favor the middle class, the working class, the blue-collar, and those who are not privileged. He is not embraced by blacks and hispanics. He is not a visionary, not someone who could exact change.

So, no, I never get tired of watching Obama demonstrate his obvious superiority. The "debate" is not really one at all.
Gag a ****ing maggot. Somehow I don't believe even YOU buy into this tripe.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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How many presidential elections have you lived through? I get that it "happens" but when it is the theme of a campaign there is something wrong. Candidates got their little snide remarks in when campaigning, but the amount of time spent by these two with the name calling and mud slinging is just unreal.

When Kennedy was running for President his opponents didn't base their campaign on the fact that the Kennedy's father was a bootlegger. The people knew it, it was in the press, but it wasn't used to "make points" by his opponents during the campaign.

There was a time when the office of President was highly respected. It appears that as time goes by that respect is deteriorating.
You need not look any further than Barack Obama if you seek to point fingers. America is in pure shock and awe at his disgraceful transformation. He went from "Hope N Change" and seeking to unite to lies, distortion, and hypocrisy.

You shouldn't worry for a moment about Mitt Romney. You should be very troubled by the Liar and Hypocrite you put your trust in in 2008. Will you acknowledge this? Or will you keep this conversation generalized in order to protect Barack Obama, inarguably the most divisive President we've ever had?
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:22 PM
 
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Obama should be explaining his early involvement in the ACORN affair as presented by Anita Moncrief and his drive to socialism regardless of the means. As this was exposed to close to his first election to be covered by the news it should be an open discussion at present.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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1) Barack Obama has been a miserably divisive President. Nothing comes out of his mouth without actually targeting another group of American's. Why is he targeting fellow citizens, as if he actually has disdain for them and their success?

2) Mitt Romney has not been divisive at all as far as I can tell. I've not seen or heard anything that effectively places a bullseye on the back of a collective group of Americans. I'm certainly open to anyone pointing out a group of American citizens that Mitt Romney has targeted with consternation and disdain. Can you do it?
So, let me get this straight. You have the Republican Party vowing from day one to obstruct everything he does, attack him and his family personally, spread lies about him (Particularly the birther BS), and to undermine his every effort to address the problems of this nation, and you think it's his fault that the country is divided?
Puh-lease. You should invest in a mirror.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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No one can counter my claims?

The silence is deafening.

It would be nice if liberals and Democrats would step forth and admit that their Chosen One has been very divisive and a huge mistake for this nation. Who can logically deny it?
When you make claims that are worth countering, maybe someone will take you up on that. In the meantime, all you're doing is spewing bile, and obviously no one thinks your bile is worth their time.
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