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Old 07-25-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Texas
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For those living in their parents' basement, they are able to stay on their parents' health insurance until age 26.

This means the parents and the young adult will be more likely to vote for Obama.
LOL...

I think they'd rather have jobs (or better jobs; some have jobs but at Starbucks or some place like that even after going to college) and the parents would rather them have jobs/better jobs.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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For young college graduates, the unemployment rate was 9.4 percent for the year between April 2011–March 2012, while the underemployment rate was 19.1 percent.

This means 90% of recent college graduates are working. Hardly the picture that one expects after reading some of the posts in this thread. Geeze, you would think that most of them are unemployed. Just not the case.

stats are at this link: The Class of 2012: Labor market for young graduates remains grim | Economic Policy Institute

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Old 07-25-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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For those living in their parents' basement, they are able to stay on their parents' health insurance until age 26.

This means the parents and the young adult will be more likely to vote for Obama.
Why on earth would this make parents vote for Obama? Why on earth do they want their kids mooching off their insurance that they (parents) pay for? Are libs so stupid as to think this extension of insurance to age 26 is FREE? Why yes, I believe they are.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why on earth would this make parents vote for Obama? Why on earth do they want their kids mooching off their insurance that they (parents) pay for? Are libs so stupid as to think this extension of insurance to age 26 is FREE? Why yes, I believe they are.
Most parents do want their kids insured. That being said, many state laws before ObamaCare already allowed young adults to stay on their parents' health insurance. Virtually every state allowed it as long as the kids were in college and under a certain age and many allowed it even if they weren't in college.

I think the national mandate requiring young adults to be covered on their parents' insurance something that Republicans won't get rid of if Romney wins and the Senate flips to the GOP.

Personally, I have mixed feelings about it. Part of me thinks it just perpetuates the entitlement mentality BS, the other part of me thinks that it's better to make insurance more available to this group (and I am against ObamaCare in general).
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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Why on earth would this make parents vote for Obama? Why on earth do they want their kids mooching off their insurance that they (parents) pay for? .
First of all, if the parents don't want their 24 year on the insurance, they can choose to leave the 24-year old off the insurance. Most parents want their children to have health insurance because they know that even healthy young adults can have sudden unexpected accidents and illnesses that can be costly.

If the parents care enough about their 24 year old to allow them to live in their basement, a logical person would assume that the same parent cares enough about their 24 year old to add them to their insurance coverage.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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For young college graduates, the unemployment rate was 9.4 percent for the year between April 2011–March 2012, while the underemployment rate was 19.1 percent.

This means 90% of recent college graduates are working. Hardly the picture that one expects after reading some of the posts in this thread. Geeze, you would think that most of them are unemployed. Just not the case.

stats are at this link: The Class of 2012: Labor market for young graduates remains grim | Economic Policy Institute
You do realize that there are those who have dropped out of the labor force or who went to grad school and did not join the labor force (when they wouldn't have otherwise and they are racking up tons and tons more debt) and are not considered unemployed or underemployed, right?

You also realize that underemployed means they are working part time instead of full time, right? It does not mean they are not working retail or working at Starbucks or McDonalds' or waiting tables despite having a college degree.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:00 PM
 
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I think the national mandate requiring young adults to be covered on their parents' insurance something that Republicans won't get rid of if Romney wins and the Senate flips to the GOP.
Romney and the GOP already said they plan to repeal Obamacare wholly. They have no plans to change it or keep parts of it.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Romney and the GOP already said they plan to repeal Obamacare wholly. They have no plans to change it or keep parts of it.
Yes, but some Republicans have provided hints that they plan to keep some provisions. Look - I don't think they should. While I'm not necessarily against allowing young adults to remain on their parents' insurance, I think it should be handled by state law - not federal mandate.

Furthermore, I think the best plan is to get these young adults good jobs so that they don't have to be on their parents' insurance.

At the end of the day, I think that insurance should not be employer-provided (and Romney's plan is intended to shift people away from being so reliant on employer-provided insurance). I think people should be buying their own plans. While states should mandate that the plans cover certain people, even if they didn't, you could simply buy another plan for anyone not covered who you wished to provide insurance for. Of course, you might not be able to afford it under current rates, but I think bringing the cost down overall should be the goal so that people would be able to afford it.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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For those living in their parents' basement, they are able to stay on their parents' health insurance until age 26.

This means the parents and the young adult will be more likely to vote for Obama.
Except that mom and dad's employer health insurance is about to get canceled because of ObamaTax.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Romney and the GOP already said they plan to repeal Obamacare wholly. They have no plans to change it or keep parts of it.
That's right and it makes a very good (why on Earth)reason to vote for Mr. Obama:
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Mr. Romney would not maintain two of the most popular provisions of Mr. Obama’s law — letting children under 26 stay on their parents’ health insurance and prohibiting insurers from denying coverage to first-time customers with pre-existing medical conditions. Mr. Romney does say that he would guarantee coverage for people with pre-existing conditions if they have been “insured in the past.” NYTIMES
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