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Old 07-25-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Except that mom and dad's employer health insurance is about to get canceled because of ObamaTax.
Where is that evident?
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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Where is that evident?
One in 10 employers will drop health coverage in the next few years, study finds
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Well, that was predictable two years ago.

Why is this news today?

It is very clear, employers - who are in the business of MAKING MONEY - are much better off financially paying the fine than paying for health insurance.

In time, only the very best corporations who wish to retain the very best talent will be providing health insurance.

Big business has ALWAYS been in the business of SOCIALIZING EXPENSES and PRIVATIZING PROFITS. Case in point - WalMart, Wall Street Banks, etc.

Nothing is new. The more things change, the more they remain the same.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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Except that mom and dad's employer health insurance is about to get canceled because of ObamaTax.
Who cares if mom and dad's employer insurance is cancelled after 1/1/2014. They will be able to buy insurance from the exchanges and can choose to add their 24 year old to the plan (or choose not to). The 24 year old will be able to buy his/her own coverage from the exchange as of 1/1/2014, if not working or if working a job that does not provide coverage.

As of 1/1/2014, the availability of health insurance will no longer be held hostage to being employed by a company that provides it. Another good thing about Obamacare.

Maybe the 24 year old will form a new Fortune 500 company from the parents' basement and not have to rush out to find the first job that provides health insurance. This(24 year old rushes out and get the first job that provides health insurance) would be necessary if Romney is elected, because he will repeal Obamacare.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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Who cares if mom and dad's employer insurance is cancelled after 1/1/2014.
I would say that people who like their current health insurance plans care.

Not to mention the people who believed Oblama's lie that nobody would be forced to change health insurance if ObamaTax passed.

Another day, another Obama lie exposed.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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I have a feeling that most of the unemployed college graduates living in their parents' basement won't be too motivated to get out the vote for Saint HopeNChange.

Bill Maher on Voting against your Interests - YouTube
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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I would say that people who like their current health insurance plans care.

Not to mention the people who believed Oblama's lie that nobody would be forced to change health insurance if ObamaTax passed.

Another day, another Obama lie exposed.
Obamacare is not making anyone change health insurance.

Today, an employer is free to change health insurance carriers any time they choose, modify an existing plan (increase deductables and/or co-insurance or modify Rx coverage) and/or cancel health insurance any time they choose. My employer provided plan has changed several times this past decade, even before Obama was elected.

This will be no different as of 1/1/2014. The employer has control to pick and choose the carrier and the plan when you get insurance through work. You can only choose what is available from their choices, if they offer you more than one choice (or if they offer any insurance at all) . Pre-ObamaCare and post-Obamacare, this has not changed and will not change.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:45 PM
 
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Yeah....no. If they have applied for job after job and can't get one while they have tens of thousands of dollars in student loans to pay back, it's doubtful they will.

If you really think Jon Stewart or Bill Maher will be able to get them to vote for Obama even when they can't get a job, that's laughable.

Obama will win the youth vote, but not by nearly as large of a margin as he did in 2008. And turnout will be down in this group (some expect turnout among this group to be below 2004 levels actually).

Moreover, a lot of young people are now part of the "Ron Paul or no one" crowd. Many of the ones who were old enough to vote and voted in 2008 probably voted for Obama; few probably voted for McCain. And they will not be voting for Obama this year.

You're the one who said that things were looking good for Obama/Democrats in Arizona, despite the fact that polling shows Arizonans are overwhelmingly sick of the illegal immigration fiasco and disapprove of Obama's move after the SCOTUS ruling to not cooperate with Arizona. I think you should really think about what you post and how little sense it makes.
Much of the youth vote only voted for Obama last time to make history. They thought it was "cool" to help elect the nations first black president. This time around, there is no such novelty attached to Obama. Add in his dismal record on job creation and the unemployment of many youth and it isn't hard to see why Obama is losing the youth vote. Not that I think Romney will gain the youth vote.....I think many will simply stay home and not vote.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:10 PM
 
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I was talking politics with two young guys at work today. Both are now in their late 20's and said that they voted for Obama in 2008 but will be voting for Romney this time around.

I think come November Obama and his Jonestown like followers are going to be in for a very, very, rude awakening.

Maybe they'll at least have the decency to drink the Flavor Aid.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:27 PM
 
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I was talking politics with two young guys at work today. Both are now in their late 20's and said that they voted for Obama in 2008 but will be voting for Romney this time around.

I think come November Obama and his Jonestown like followers are going to be in for a very, very, rude awakening.

Maybe they'll at least have the decency to drink the Flavor Aid.
Agreed. Any young voter with a brain will be voting for R & R, not President Downgrade.
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