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Old 08-31-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: DFW
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It's why they will always be losers. They haven't a clue. They simply don't have the mental capacity to understand business.
Give all the money to the poor and they will all be poor again in a very short time.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:48 PM
 
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Obama and Company---- Socialism to bring down everyone to Govt dependency
Romney and Company--Feudalism to reduce the 99% to serfdom.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Give all the money to the poor and they will all be poor again in a very short time.
That's the truth. They also will have trashed their surroundings. They don't have the slightest idea how to grow money.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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And what makes you think you know the slightest thing about me? Huh?

Talk about a moron, big time!

You don't have the vaguest idea who I am, what I do and have done for a living, how successful I've been, or the slightest thing about me. You are hallucinating. You have no reason to personally attack me, but have at it and rest assured.....you will never, ever own your own business or have the slightest idea what it entails.


There ya go, calling everyone who doesn't agree with you a deflector and hijacker.

YOU are a huge reason why people laugh at liberals and their incredibly stupid talking points.
You're correct that all I know about you is what you post on this MB.....which is the basis for my opinions. I'm not personally attacking you.....I'm asking you what you know about Romney's business models. Why is that so threatening to you?

I'm afraid you're wrong about me and my career experience. As you pointed out correctly, I don't know you personally; and, you don't know me personally.

Just as I thought, no intelligent discussion of the topic....I know it takes time and effort to read links and discuss these things.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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Ummm. What do you think Goldman Sachs has been doing?

That is the next step in Global Inc. Further privatization of what little is left. This has been occurring and I am sure plans are to continue the trend. Romney is perfect for this. But BO has done a fine job, as well.
^This x 1,000

What Romney is so very good at, what was really ramped up under Bush the Younger, and continues under Obama is basically a leveraged buy out of the U.S.A. Perhaps we should just call it what it is- a coup. It is a comparatively small investment from Wall Street and The Federal (NOT Federal) Reserve (NO reserves) to buy the United Corporation of America.

This is financed on the backs of the citizen taxpayers in the form of bail outs, job and property loss, taxes and, yes, we are even happily and voluntarily surrendering the gold fillings in our teeth and grandmother's jewelry for a few bucks.

We have already been the victims of a leveraged buy out of sorts and the damages and consequences are all around us and will remain for generations to come. We have been turned upside down and shaken- pockets emptied. Want more of it and faster? Elect Romney. He is pretty good at this stuff and has a global agenda.

Probably too late, but the only thing we the peeps could do to have ANY effect is refuse to vote- period. That's not going to happen, so carry on. Ignorance is bliss just like a frog sitting in a pot of water on a stove doesn't even notice the temperature is rising.

In the spirit of optimism I invite everyone to to become educated about the Federal Reserve monetary system and leveraged buyouts for starters:

This:
Paul Grignon's 47-minute animated presentation of "Money as Debt" tells in very simple and effective graphic terms what money is and how it is being created. It is an entertaining way to get the message out.


Money As Debt / Forex - YouTube

and

Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital | Politics News | Rolling Stone


Neither Romney nor Obama is going to get us out of this mess, the agenda will move forward under either. Only a citizenry informed with the facts can even begin to remedy the situation and this has to happen while we still have some rights left and some protection under the law.

I wonder who the Feds and Wall St. have selected? If Romney, we frogs will come to a boil sooner, with Obama, we will simmer for awhile. End game= no difference, we are "cooked".

My best guess is that Romney has been selected. The fact that such an unpopular figure even got the party's nomination (albeit by pitting him against some very weak contenders) is suspect. Republicans are now outwardly cheering for him but in their sinking hearts they know he's not a candidate they really wanted or can really love. Deny it all you want, in your gut and in your heart, you know something doesn't quite sit right. So why is he there? How was he magically nominated, no doubt to a lot of perplexed party faithful, without the real support of those faithful?

Maybe because that's the plan: "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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In the end, they are the same person here.
Pretty much. Same elites in the revolving doors. Govt owns JPM and GS. They both fund our elections on every step.

BO is a slightly different Big Gov flavor than MR.

Either way still same system and same elites running the plantation.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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^This x 1,000

What Romney is so very good at, what was really ramped up under Bush the Younger, and continues under Obama is basically a leveraged buy out of the U.S.A. Perhaps we should just call it what it is- a coup. It is a comparatively small investment from Wall Street and The Federal (NOT Federal) Reserve (NO reserves) to buy the United Corporation of America.

This is financed on the backs of the citizen taxpayers in the form of bail outs, job and property loss, taxes and, yes, we are even happily and voluntarily surrendering the gold fillings in our teeth and grandmother's jewelry for a few bucks.

We have already been the victims of a leveraged buy out of sorts and the damages and consequences are all around us and will remain for generations to come. We have been turned upside down and shaken- pockets emptied. Want more of it and faster? Elect Romney. He is pretty good at this stuff and has a global agenda.

Probably too late, but the only thing we the peeps could do to have ANY effect is refuse to vote- period. That's not going to happen, so carry on. Ignorance is bliss just like a frog sitting in a pot of water on a stove doesn't even notice the temperature is rising.

In the spirit of optimism I invite everyone to to become educated about the Federal Reserve monetary system and leveraged buyouts for starters:

This:
Paul Grignon's 47-minute animated presentation of "Money as Debt" tells in very simple and effective graphic terms what money is and how it is being created. It is an entertaining way to get the message out.


Money As Debt / Forex - YouTube

and

Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital | Politics News | Rolling Stone


Neither Romney nor Obama is going to get us out of this mess, the agenda will move forward under either. Only a citizenry informed with the facts can even begin to remedy the situation and this has to happen while we still have some rights left and some protection under the law.

I wonder who the Feds and Wall St. have selected? If Romney, we frogs will come to a boil sooner, with Obama, we will simmer for awhile. End game= no difference, we are "cooked".

My best guess is that Romney has been selected. The fact that such an unpopular figure even got the party's nomination (albeit by pitting him against some very weak contenders) is suspect. Republicans are now outwardly cheering for him but in their sinking hearts they know he's not a candidate they really wanted or can really love. Deny it all you want, in your gut and in your heart, you know something doesn't quite sit right. So why is he there? How was he magically nominated, no doubt to a lot of perplexed party faithful, without the real support of those faithful?

Maybe because that's the plan: "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
I think it would be amazing to see no one vote. Then when the phony numbers came in peeps might notice. However, they could just show old or select footage on TV or tell people any little story and far too many would buy the excuse for the obvious.

Ultimately, we need to correct the govt's ability to own just about everything. This can't happen w/o that discussion and understanding. TRFs are a very good idea for addressing both issues.

Voting in our current system doesn't do much , but perpetuate a myth. If you vote understand it is for you.

Pretty simple. Govt owns JPM and GS. So look what they own. 80% of GLOBAL WEALTH people. Self regulating. A few basics to understand. This is one of them. Another reason the interest rate swaps and LIBOR are a much bigger deal than some are aware.
Revealedthe capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math ...
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Pretty much. Same elites in the revolving doors. Govt owns JPM and GS. They both fund our elections on every step.

BO is a slightly different Big Gov flavor than MR.

Either way still same system and same elites running the plantation.
But as the other poster said, with Romney we "cook" faster. I, too, fear that Romney has been "selected."
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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Not ranting. Facts are in the article in the link in the OP. Reading is fundamental.
No, interpreting is fundamental...you can read what ever you want, but if cannot interpret then your reading is useless...

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That information is in the link in the OP.....it has already been provided for you. However, you have to read it to understand what people are talking about here. Of course, Romney and his supporters are counting on you NOT reading the information.....they want you to think Romney is this great businessman in the traditional sense. Believe me, you would not want to see Bain Capital (or the like) come take over any business where you might work if you wanted to continue to have a job. You very likely wouldn't be just "fired".....the business would go under and there would be no job.
No, this is your problem, you read only what is here on CD and links provided...I on the other hand do read and know that "Bain" has failed...BUT the rate of success is much higher than the the failure rate...

PROVE me wrong....

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I'm thinking it would be helpful to you if you read the article. Corporate raiders were not motivated to take over a company to "save" it.......You seem to be confused. It's a complicated topic. Staples is NOT the same type of business as the ones Romney took over to drain of their money.....they are two different types of business models. Romney did not make most of his money from Staples. Read the article in the link....unless, as another person here says so frequently....you are afraid of what you might learn.
Did Bain take over Staples or not? Don't pic and choose what you would like...

So, if I', afraid, what was Bain's success under Romney?

You maybe surprised at what you may learn if you read anything other than link provided here on CD.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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But as the other poster said, with Romney we "cook" faster. I, too, fear that Romney has been "selected."
Doesn't matter. The sooner things boil probably the better off we may be. I don't like saying that, but people do tend to live in their own little reality, in US, especially. Things usually have to knock on their personal door before they pay attention. Disassociation is a norm.

Things are not necessarily as they seem. I think changes are coming rather quickly, but probably several more yrs of pain. The change seems inevitable to me.

Much is being brought out into the light, which is ultimately the next step. This planet is being ran in a very poor fashion by some very fearful control freaks. A serious travesty imo.

However, I don't see such low-level thinking ruling the day.

We are really seeing Zombies. What is already dead and gone is appearing somewhat alive and scary.
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