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Old 08-09-2012, 10:58 PM
 
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Anyone who complains about having to vote for the "lesser of two evils" should run for office themselves. It's only the lesser of two evils if you choose to see if that way. If you don't know enough about the political parties' positions to choose a candidate, then maybe you should start to learn a little bit about them. You don't have to fall in love with an individual candidate. You only need to know what they generally stand for.

Thank you, it's too much effort for some folks to educate themselves...it's just easier to whine about having to vote for the lesser of two evils.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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She was telling the truth. And the truth is that ObamaCare is virtually identical to RomneyCare, which she praised as the salvation for the woman's problem. Now, Romney is saying that ObamaCare is bad, which is the same as saying that its twin, RomneyCare, is bad. Her statement the other night thus was admitting that ObamaCare would, also, be the salvation for all other peoples' medical problems.

Romney is definitely allowed to talk about anything he's done. Come on, Mitt, tell us again about why RomneyCare is so good for Massachusetts; then tell us why the same thing is so bad for the rest of us.

They are not the same thing, because one is a state reform of health care and the other is a massive bill that tries to make the entire nation a one size fits all. There is nothing particularly wrong with Massachusetts healthcare reform, most in the state are fairly happy with it, but that is where it belongs, on the state level.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:10 PM
 
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I appreciate your honesty!

As for the spokeswoman, I don't understand why she's being excoriated here. Was it really THAT much of a slip up? Was she not telling the truth? Is Romney really not allowed to talk about anything that he's ever done?!?
The GOP does not want Romney taking credit for the one thing he should be proud of while he was Governor. So, Mr. Spineless is distancing himself from the issue. That is a helluva lot more scathing than anything the Obama camp can throw at him.

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Old 08-09-2012, 11:24 PM
 
Location: None of your business
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the Romney campaign has brought on some new talent just this week and they are much tougher and with the low levels the Obama campaign is sinking to...much needed I agree.
I heard this too. There are also the campaign laws that are holding Romney back. Obama went all out and even overspent in June and this is why he is practically begging people to contribute. Surprise, Obama spent more than he was bringing in. Obama also refused to pay cities who provided extra protection while he was in town campaigning. Obama knew he had to do everything he can to try and discredit Romney before Romney is allowed out of the gate.

Today Obama prepped his followers about the coming Super Pac attacks against him. All that money that Romney was not allowed to spend. Obama knows Romney will soon be allowed out to play.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:36 PM
 
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They are not the same thing, because one is a state reform of health care and the other is a massive bill that tries to make the entire nation a one size fits all. There is nothing particularly wrong with Massachusetts healthcare reform, most in the state are fairly happy with it, but that is where it belongs, on the state level.

The US Supreme Court just ruled that it is appropriate for the US Congress to decide whather to establish it for the entire nation. So the argument that it should only be established "only on state level" is now moot.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:40 PM
 
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There are campaign laws that restrict Romney from spending a part of the money he raised until he is nominated. An incombent president does not have these restrictions.

Obamas goal is to discredit Romney before he is by law allowed to start spending the money. Ironic how Obama just warned his followers about the coming Romney super PAC. He knows Romney is coming and it will be soon.
I forgot all about that.. very valid points.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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Mutt's a liar, and blo-bama's a illegal immigrant wanna-be u.s. citizen and a **** poor excuse for a president! THERE are your choices!!
UNLESS...you realize the other choice? DO NOT vote for either!
Why do we have to vote for the lesser of two evils??

T.
You don't have to vote for the lessor of the evils. In the last election, a substantial number of the folks in New Hampshire wrote in their own names on the ballot, and it got mentioned on national news media (I believe) exactly twice. Obviously, that won't work because the standard political machinery continued on with business as usual, without missing a beat.

This year, do not stay away from the polls, but don't vote for the lessor of the evils either. This year, we need a "NATIONAL TRASH CAN" for everyone to "throw their vote away" rather than the lessor of the evils. There's already a name in the works. LEONARD C. FONS Put all the protest votes in one place, and they will be counted, and get media coverage. A substantial percentage of votes will put the career politicians on notice that either they begin to represent their constituents or they may be replaced.

Obama has shown who he is, an organizer that has no clue how to follow through, and Romney promises to be even worse. Neither has a viable plan for the future.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:26 AM
 
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The US Supreme Court just ruled that it is appropriate for the US Congress to decide whather to establish it for the entire nation. So the argument that it should only be established "only on state level" is now moot.

Moot or not, it is not the same thing...that was the point being made. The Supreme Court in all of their supposed wisdom, gets it wrong sometimes. Because they are the supreme court does not mean you have to agree with them.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:31 AM
 
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I heard this too. There are also the campaign laws that are holding Romney back. Obama went all out and even overspent in June and this is why he is practically begging people to contribute. Surprise, Obama spent more than he was bringing in. Obama also refused to pay cities who provided extra protection while he was in town campaigning. Obama knew he had to do everything he can to try and discredit Romney before Romney is allowed out of the gate.

Today Obama prepped his followers about the coming Super Pac attacks against him. All that money that Romney was not allowed to spend. Obama knows Romney will soon be allowed out to play.

Yes, the onslaught against Obama has not even started yet. They were trying to get out in front of it with this really disgraceful stuff they have been running. That works on some voters, but it can also work against you. Actually, I think the voters in this country pretty much have their minds made up already. The deciding factor will be who gets out to vote and who has the energy. The more Obama and his followers sling this really vicious and vile stuff, the more it gets the conservatives fired up.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Anyone who complains about having to vote for the "lesser of two evils" should run for office themselves. It's only the lesser of two evils if you choose to see if that way. If you don't know enough about the political parties' positions to choose a candidate, then maybe you should start to learn a little bit about them. You don't have to fall in love with an individual candidate. You only need to know what they generally stand for.
Oh I have studied them. And they ARE evils. There is no "lesser", they are both evil. That you can't see that is alarming.

There IS another choice but you all fall lock step in line with the media regurgitation all the while claiming how independent thinking you are.

Fools.

You all deserve what you get.
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