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Old 08-17-2012, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I have only told you this around 4 times now.....


The judge stated that it INSURES THE INTEGRITY OF THE SACRED VOTING PROCESS
Which is something we don't need to insure, because it's been proven that the integrity of the "sacred voting process" is still rather intact, even without the voter ID.

SO again.

What is the point of voter ID laws?
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:13 AM
 
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The Ed Show

The Ed Show

Check out these 2 videos more info about this there are 600k to 750k people PA right now that do not have the proper ID to vote mostly minorities
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:14 AM
 
Location: west mich
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Turzai let the real goal of voter i.d. slip out. Everybody knows about it of course. Don't know why the Fox trolls bother since they are not fooling anyone.


(R) Admits Voter ID Laws About Helping Romney Win Election - YouTube
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:27 AM
 
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Did it ever occur to these people who instigated these voter suppression laws that it may also affect many Republican voters who havent updated their id to the current new standards?
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Did it ever occur to these people who instigated these voter suppression laws that it may also affect many Republican voters who havent updated their id to the current new standards?
This ardent Ryan/Romney supporter clearly explains why this voter supression doesn't mean anything...

8/16/12 in :60 Seconds - The Colbert Report - 2012-16-08 - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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Turzai let the real goal of voter i.d. slip out. Everybody knows about it of course. Don't know why the Fox trolls bother since they are not fooling anyone.


(R) Admits Voter ID Laws About Helping Romney Win Election - YouTube
Been over this so many times.

What, in this case the Young Turks are doing, is taking his quote out of context.

He is speaking to a group of people that believe massive voter ID fraud in the Democratic parts of the state swing the state blue.

Therefore, voter ID will help eliminate the fraud and hence Romney wins.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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Actually in the court case we are talking about it was established that over 750 thousand register voters in PA lack an approved government photo ID.
Actually that is not true. As the judge pointed out 750K names on the voter rolls do not match the driver rolls AND 1) they didn't check for miscues 2) they didn't check for maiden names 3) aren't considering that other forms of ID work for example retirement home photo ID that are acceptable to vote - or a military ID as some soldiers overseas for long periods do not maintain their IDs, 4) the fact that there is proof of tens of thousands of false registrations 5) they didn't consider that typically when you die your name comes off the driver rolls before the voting rolls.

What was established was that the law "“imposes only a limited burden on voters’ rights, and the burden does not outweigh the statute’s plainly legitimate sweep.” Those seeking to block the law did not show that “disenfranchisement was immediate or inevitable,” wrote Simpson.""

Even the critic in the OP's link says that the ruling is “a careful opinion by a judge who struggled with the evidence and the law and, as I expected, issued a thoughtful, non-ideological and well-done decision. I disagree with the decision’s bottom line… but there is no doubt this is a judge acting in good faith applying the law and facts as he found them.”
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:10 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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That's not true at all. PA doesn't have no-excuse absentee voting, by mail or otherwise.

How to Vote
I looked at that page.

There are absentee ballots. There are actually special ballots if you are disabled and one for permanently disabled. There are all kinds of balloting situations they use absentee ballots for. You just have to do what you do in any state and prepare ahead to secure that ballot and get it back in on the right date.

There are special balloting allowances made for the elderly.

There are even "emergency ballots" for those who end up in the hospital. It even states that a veteran in a hospital, or who is disabled, will be allowed to vote even if HE IS NOT PRESENTLY REGISTERED.

Anyone who needs to vote via absentee ballot has no excuse for not doing so.

How to Vote

BTW - they take down info over the phone . . . and verify it. You can give them your social security number. Now, who out there, especially elderly, doesn't have a social security number? You can't get to the polls - read over the list - looks like the state has bent over backwards to make it possible for anyone to vote, even if they are going to be out of town, or working, or it is a religious holiday for them, etc.

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Old 08-17-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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Which is something we don't need to insure, because it's been proven that the integrity of the "sacred voting process" is still rather intact, even without the voter ID.

SO again.

What is the point of voter ID laws?
We don't need to insure the integrity of the voting process? Did you just say that?

SO again....

Why couldn't the people who oppose the Voter ID Law supply the court with a SINGLE case where someone who wanted to vote couldn't because of PA's Voter ID Law that already went into effect and was applied in the last Election?

The proponents DID supply the court with cases of voter fraud.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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This ardent Ryan/Romney supporter clearly explains why this voter supression doesn't mean anything...

8/16/12 in :60 Seconds - The Colbert Report - 2012-16-08 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

This is what passes for proof in Liberaland?

Yes, forget all about the Pennsylvania Voter's Website's FAQ page completely.......rely on a comedy program on Comedy Central.
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