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Old 08-18-2012, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I'm hoping on Election Day, the Exit Pollers will, in addition to asking voters how they voted, ask whether they are unemployed or underemployed.

Since so many people are out of work, I'm wondering if they will try Romney for jobs or Obama for longer unemployment check periods? How will the ones vote whose unemployment checks have already run out? What do you think the unemployed will do? Will other demographic characteristics (like race, religion, sex, etc.) trump their unemployment status or vice versa?

I don't have a clue and I'm kind of surprised that because there are so many of them, why pollsters don't treat them as a separate demographic when they poll likely voters. Are the unemployed even more likely to vote? I don't know.

By the way, these are the 10 states with the worst unemployment rates. You can't really point to all of them and see something the same about all of them geographically or politically although except for Michigan, the midwest isn't represented.


MICHIGAN 9.0%
MISSISSIPPI 9.1%
NEW YORK 9.1%
GEORGIA 9.3%
NORTH CAROLINA 9.6%
SOUTH CAROLINA 9.6%
NEW JERSEY 9.8%
CALIFORNIA 10.7%
RHODE ISLAND 10.8%
NEVADA 12.0%

State unemployment rates rise in 44 states - Aug. 17, 2012

Unemployment: Where does your state rank? - CNNMoney
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:04 AM
 
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I do not know either. If I were unemployed I would probably vote for Mr. Romney.

We must recall, even a state with 10% unemployed means that some 90% are employed (I realize that the 'real' unemployment rate can be higher than the stats suggest).

Are those who are working more willing to vote for the incumbent president, regardless of party affiliation? Not at all. Employed Democrats will tend to vote for President Obama, employed Republicans, for Mr. Romney.

Nevertheless, I would imagine that the unemployed would tend to vote for someone they believe can get jobs moving again.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:07 AM
 
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I do not know either. If I were unemployed I would probably vote for Mr. Romney.

We must recall, even a state with 10% unemployed means that some 90% are employed (I realize that the 'real' unemployment rate can be higher than the stats suggest).

Are those who are working more willing to vote for the incumbent president, regardless of party affiliation? Not at all. Employed Democrats will tend to vote for President Obama, employed Republicans, for Mr. Romney.

Nevertheless, I would imagine that the unemployed would tend to vote for someone they believe can get jobs moving again.
romney did a horrible job of creating jobs in mass, thats the only problem with your romney solution.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:08 AM
 
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Obama fought tooth and nail to extent unemployment benefits to the struggling americans desperately looking for work.

The GOP told them to go to hell.

It's pretty easy to see who they will be voting for,..
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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Obama fought tooth and nail to extent unemployment benefits to the struggling americans desperately looking for work.

The GOP told them to go to hell.

It's pretty easy to see who they will be voting for,..
Obama has prevented them from getting work, due to poor economic policy. Do you think that people want to be destitute and unemployed, or have a job?
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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romney did a horrible job of creating jobs in mass, thats the only problem with your romney solution.
My Romney solution? I merely noted that, if I were unemployed, I would probably consider voting for Mr. Romney. I am employed, however.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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You would hope &think they would vote for Romney. As far as jobs- what has obama done? Nothing! As a matter of fact- what has obama done thats positive at all?
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:14 AM
 
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The Republican Party has never been the friend of the unemployed or working poor. From the Gilded Age through the 1920s, when it was the party of Liberalism, it favored industry and business over the worker. Harding, Coolidge and Hoover perpetuated the party's pro-business, anti-worker policies. Robert Taft's "Conservative Coalition", despite his much more moderate ideology than the modern version, was similarly pro-business and anti-labor. The seizure of the party since the 1980s by Libertarians, evangelicals and Rovian opportunists has affected the party's traditional alignment with big money against the work force not one bit.

Therefore, an unemployed or barely-employed person who votes for the GOP is either very stupid, or a dyed-in-the-wool believer in "trickle down" economics, or more concerned about other issues (traditionally, flag-waving jingoistic patriotism has worked well for the GOP) than his own self-interest. There are many sections of American society for whom a vote for the GOP is in their own interests, but it is simply foolish to say that the poor are one of them.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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You would hope &think they would vote for Romney. As far as jobs- what has obama done? Nothing! As a matter of fact- what has obama done thats positive at all?
we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs during bush. we are now at 0 or slightly creating more each month. i will take 0 losses with slow growth over bush.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Yes, I was thinking more along the line that the unemployed think it can't be any worse so they will want to try someone different. The someone different just happens to be Romney.

I think if Romney just follows through with an all-in domestic energy plan, coupled with a demotion of the EPA, a lot of people will find jobs. Romney and now Ryan have to spell it out to make people understand that the jobs won't just come directly from the energy industry itself but the connections to it. There will be more service industry jobs (hotels, restaurants, stores, transportation, security) springing up around where all of the people come to do the direct energy work so the group now, with high unemployment (high school diploma or less) will find jobs. That has already happened in North Dakota. With all of those people moving to where those type of jobs are located will come construction work to build homes and stores for them. If they move with children, there will be schools that need to be built.

I would like to see Romney and Ryan hold up North Dakota with its 3.0 unemployment rate as an example of what could be in other states if we go all in on domestic energy.

However, I don't know what percent of the unemployed rank their unemployment status importance ahead of social issues, race, etc..

I also don't know what percent of them really don't want to work.
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