U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Happy Thanksgiving Day!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:10 PM
 
5,366 posts, read 4,376,705 times
Reputation: 3282

Advertisements

I really love how they keep ranting on about austerity measures and how cutting government spending will help our economy. When the hell in the past hundred years has austerity EVER worked? What the hell can be gained by cutting billions out of our economy?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
8,282 posts, read 6,861,461 times
Reputation: 3650
Basically we have a populace that would rather watch Jersey Shore and the like rather than think. The people allow politicians, Republican and Democrat, to lie to them. Hell, people encourage politicians to lie because they don't want to have to think deeply about anything: "Give me a soundbite so I can get back to my Nascar and Housewives of whatever."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
14,506 posts, read 22,054,217 times
Reputation: 8793
Here's a list of all of Paul Ryan's lies.
Not enough time to create a thread on this issue.
We have responsibilities, one to another – we do not each face the world alone. And the greatest of all responsibilities, is that of the strong to protect the weak. The truest measure of any society is how it treats those who cannot defend or care for themselves … We can make the safety net safe again.
If Paul Ryan's budget is notable for anything, it's for cuts to Medicaid and other programs on which low-income households depend. As the Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein points out: "The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities ran the numbers and said two-thirds of Ryan's cuts will end up falling on programs for the poor."
The Ryan plan cuts spending on Medicaid and other health assistance programs for the poor from just over 3% of GDP to just over 1%. It cuts home mortgage deductions, veteran's benefits, farm subsidies and other aid programs


Ryan said the president was responsible for Standard and Poor's downgrading US credit from AAA to AA+ in August 2011. He said of Obama's first term:
It began with a perfect Triple-A credit rating for the United States; it ends with a downgraded America.
In fact, the downgrade was the result of refusal of Republicans in Congress to vote to raise the debt ceiling, despite pressure from the White House and most outside analysts.
So stubborn was the Republican resistance that treasury secretary Timothy Geithner suggested the president could unilaterally raise the ceiling under the 14th amendment. Ultimately the Republicans capitulated, but the damage was done; days after the Budget Control Act of 2011 was signed, the rating was cut.


business as usual, fear and smear.
Paul Ryan's speech: a round-up of his most audacious untruths | World news | guardian.co.uk

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
9,995 posts, read 10,452,359 times
Reputation: 5518
Because their audience expects no more of them. I think the GOP base, in general, is not very educated, and tends to prefer to listen to slogans that conform to their opinions, regardless of facts. Topics like evolution, global warming, fiscal arithmetic,etc. that raise challenging questions are usually ignored or openly attacked. The reason that liberal talk radio usually fails is that educated folks prefer to think for themselves. I would expect Canadians are similar to most independents and liberals, though the hardcore uber partisans are probably just like the GOP base.

For instance, I just raised the issue that Bush lost hundreds of thousands of private sector jobs, and added hundreds of thousands of public sector jobs even as he was cutting taxes. In other words, he did exactly what they want to accuse Obama of doing. But noone will acknowledge that.

Being right is more important than being truthful to many partisans.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs
3,820 posts, read 8,801,173 times
Reputation: 2900
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhenomenalAJ View Post
They have to do something to excite their base of aging angry bigoted white people. They're fortunate to have an uneducated gullible base unlike the Democrats. Just tell them something is un-Christian or gay and they'll immediately come out against it like an army of drones.
Don't sell your democrat party short. Your side has plenty of gullible idiots that find racism and oppression around every corner. Your army of drones is quite a sight, and a lot more visible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
19,899 posts, read 14,094,448 times
Reputation: 6431
Dear i think you have it quite wrong. Why do politicians on both sides, find it necessary, to stretch the truth, and we all know they do. Just look at the fiasco of Hope n' Change and unity, and prosperity, and a job creator, and a booming economy, none of which have happned......... comes with the territority, and to say it does not on both sides, your talking our of your arse?

Clinton swore he was not playing footsies with that intern, and yes we all know by now that the sly John Edwards was not making babies either right?

While his lovely wife of how many years was dying, no, that did not happen either did it. The truth comes out, when they are found out.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:44 PM
 
28,223 posts, read 11,988,865 times
Reputation: 6446
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucknow View Post
Why in the world does the GOP find it absolutely necessary to lie, misrepresent and basically tell tall tales almost all or the time? Are they so lacking in anything of substance? They never get into any kind of discussion of actual policy ideas. It's just mind blowing the way they can stand up there at their biggest do they have and lie, lie, lie to the American people. They must have an enormous contempt for the people who they are asking to vote for them.

Canadians sure are different. It's very usual for a party to actually print a document outlining exactly what the party plans on doing if elected. These policy papers will cover everything from taxes, justice system reforms, education, foreign affairs and so on. These policy positions that are written down make it possible to have an intellegent debate on the merits or lack of in the various platforms. It seems that this would be a very good thing to happen in US politics.
Making wild ass claims is one thing. How about telling us what exactly you are referring to?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
4,213 posts, read 4,653,105 times
Reputation: 624
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamofmonterey View Post
Here's a list of all of Paul Ryan's lies.
Not enough time to create a thread on this issue.
We have responsibilities, one to another we do not each face the world alone. And the greatest of all responsibilities, is that of the strong to protect the weak. The truest measure of any society is how it treats those who cannot defend or care for themselves We can make the safety net safe again.
If Paul Ryan's budget is notable for anything, it's for cuts to Medicaid and other programs on which low-income households depend. As the Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein points out: "The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities ran the numbers and said two-thirds of Ryan's cuts will end up falling on programs for the poor."
The Ryan plan cuts spending on Medicaid and other health assistance programs for the poor from just over 3% of GDP to just over 1%. It cuts home mortgage deductions, veteran's benefits, farm subsidies and other aid programs


<B>Ryan said the president was responsible for Standard and Poor's downgrading US credit from AAA to AA+ in August 2011. He said of Obama's first term:
It began with a perfect Triple-A credit rating for the United States; it ends with a downgraded America.
</B>
In fact, the downgrade was the result of refusal of Republicans in Congress to vote to raise the debt ceiling, despite pressure from the White House and most outside analysts.
So stubborn was the Republican resistance that treasury secretary Timothy Geithner suggested the president could unilaterally raise the ceiling under the 14th amendment. Ultimately the Republicans capitulated, but the damage was done; days after the Budget Control Act of 2011 was signed, the rating was cut.


business as usual, fear and smear.
Paul Ryan's speech: a round-up of his most audacious untruths | World news | guardian.co.uk
LMFAO, Normal libral twisting and turning the facts, half facts, to their favor and only using quotes without context, LMFAO, No wonder no one takes librals serious. LOL
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:51 PM
 
28,223 posts, read 11,988,865 times
Reputation: 6446
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamofmonterey View Post
Here's a list of all of Paul Ryan's lies.
Not enough time to create a thread on this issue.
We have responsibilities, one to another – we do not each face the world alone. And the greatest of all responsibilities, is that of the strong to protect the weak. The truest measure of any society is how it treats those who cannot defend or care for themselves … We can make the safety net safe again.
If Paul Ryan's budget is notable for anything, it's for cuts to Medicaid and other programs on which low-income households depend. As the Washington Post economics blogger Ezra Klein points out: "The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities ran the numbers and said two-thirds of Ryan's cuts will end up falling on programs for the poor."
The Ryan plan cuts spending on Medicaid and other health assistance programs for the poor from just over 3% of GDP to just over 1%. It cuts home mortgage deductions, veteran's benefits, farm subsidies and other aid programs


<b>Ryan said the president was responsible for Standard and Poor's downgrading US credit from AAA to AA+ in August 2011. He said of Obama's first term:
It began with a perfect Triple-A credit rating for the United States; it ends with a downgraded America.
In fact, the downgrade was the result of refusal of Republicans in Congress to vote to raise the debt ceiling, despite pressure from the White House and most outside analysts.
So stubborn was the Republican resistance that treasury secretary Timothy Geithner suggested the president could unilaterally raise the ceiling under the 14th amendment. Ultimately the Republicans capitulated, but the damage was done; days after the Budget Control Act of 2011 was signed, the rating was cut.


business as usual, fear and smear.
Paul Ryan's speech: a round-up of his most audacious untruths | World news | guardian.co.uk

</b>
Anybody that is even faintly aware of our current financial condition knows that if something isn't don't to the existing programs they will go completely bankrupt.

Ezra Klein? "Ezra Klein (born May 9, 1984) is a liberal American journalist, blogger and columnist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Klein

Do you really expect someone like Ezra to say anything different?
The rest is just your biased opinion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
10,585 posts, read 7,339,483 times
Reputation: 4142
ANOTHER thread from leftist fanatics, that starts "Why does the....", followed by some lie about Republicans?

You people really have nothing left, do you?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2017, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 - Top