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Old 09-02-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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There are a number of parallels between Mitt Romney in John Kerry. For one

1) Kerry is a senator from Massachusetts and Romney was the governor of Massachusetts.
2) Both are super rich politicians
3) Both have good hair
4) Both are considered flip floppers
5) Democrats picked a qualified war hero who had the experience to be president in trying national security times. Republicans picked a Businessman with experience they see as key to turning around the economy in tough economic times.
6) Both were looked at as stiff robotic like candidates
7) Both are looked at as aloof, equivocating, out-of-touch elitists
8) Both speak fluent French
9) Kerry voted for the war in Iraq and then opposed it as a presidential candidate. Romney was for universal healthcare (Romneycare) and then was against it as presidential candidate.
10) Both were criticized for their lifestyles during hard times. Kerry was photographed windsurfing. Romney was photographed on a jet ski.
11) Both faced "swift boating" attacks which affected their poll numbers
12) Both candidates weren't liked a whole lot by their own party. Democrats weren't enthusiastic about Kerry but they were enthusiastic about removing George Bush. Republicans aren't enthusiastic about Mitt Romney but they are enthusiastic about removing Barack Obama.
13) Both Kerry and Romney picked young, attractive populist running mates (Edwards and Ryan)
14) Kerry lost the election. Romney loses the election

In summery, Both parties chose an uncharismatic, wooden, super-rich intellectual from Massachusetts who was painted as a flip-flopping, out-of-touch elitist

How Mitt Romney is turning into the John Kerry of the 2012 election | Gary Younge | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

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Old 09-02-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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I agree with all but this: "Both faced "swift boating" attacks which affected their poll numbers." What has Mitt faced that could be considered 'swift boating'?
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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I agree with all but this: "Both faced "swift boating" attacks which affected their poll numbers." What has Mitt faced that could be considered 'swift boating'?
Some have compared the democrats use of Bain Capital as swiftboating Romney. I don't think Romney did anything illegal in regards to Bain but I do think his tax returns are questionable.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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I think it's a fairly accurate assessment, but Kerry was amateur hour when it comes to the flip flopping compared to Willard.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Apt analogy...and both chose vice presidential candidates that were supposed to "rally the base."
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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There are a number of parallels between Mitt Romney in John Kerry. For one

1) Kerry is a senator from Massachusetts and Romney was the governor of Massachusetts.
2) Both are super rich politicians
3) Both have good hair
4) Both are considered flip floppers
5) Democrats picked a qualified war hero who had the experience to be president in trying national security times. Republicans picked a Businessman with experience they see as key to turning around the economy in tough economic times.
6) Both were looked at as stiff robotic like candidates
7) Both are looked at as aloof, equivocating, out-of-touch elitists
8) Both were criticized for their lifestyles during hard times. Kerry was photographed windsurfing. Romney was photographed on a jet ski.
9) Both faced "swift boating" attacks which affected their poll numbers
10) Both candidates weren't liked a whole lot by their own party. Democrats weren't enthusiastic about Kerry but they were enthusiastic about removing George Bush. Republicans aren't enthusiastic about Mitt Romney but they are enthusiastic about removing Barack Obama.
11) Both Kerry and Romney picked young, attractive populist running mates (Edwards and Ryan)
12) Kerry lost the election. Romney loses the election

In summery, Both parties chose an uncharismatic, wooden, super-rich intellectual from Massachusetts who was painted as a flip-flopping, out-of-touch elitist

How Mitt Romney is turning into the John Kerry of the 2012 election | Gary Younge | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk


great, so we can now call Obama another Carter. both a 1 term president.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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Originally Posted by gsoboi78 View Post
There are a number of parallels between Mitt Romney in John Kerry. For one

1) Kerry is a senator from Massachusetts and Romney was the governor of Massachusetts.
2) Both are super rich politicians
3) Both have good hair
4) Both are considered flip floppers
5) Both were looked at as stiff robotic like candidates
6) Both are looked at as aloof, equivocating, out-of-touch elitists
7) Both candidates weren't liked a whole lot by their own party. Democrats weren't enthusiastic about Kerry but they were enthusiastic about removing George Bush. Republicans aren't enthusiastic about Mitt Romney but they are enthusiastic about removing Barack Obama.
8) Both Kerry and Romney picked young, attractive populist running mates (Edwards and Ryan)
9) Kerry lost the election. Romney loses the election

In summery, Both parties chose an uncharismatic, wooden, super-rich intellectual from Massachusetts who was painted as a flip-flopping, out-of-touch elitist

How Mitt Romney is turning into the John Kerry of the 2012 election | Gary Younge | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
An important distinction- Kerry had an old fashioned sense of the "noblesse oblige" of the Upper Crust, became a navy officer, and was wounded in action three times in Viet Nam, a war he opposed.

As a young man, Romney, by contrast, got several deferments from service in a war he purportedly supported, and wound up in Palace in Paris, hob-nobbing with the head of the Mormon mission there.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Romney = Kerry + McCain
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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Some have compared the democrats use of Bain Capital as swiftboating Romney. I don't think Romney did anything illegal in regards to Bain but I do think his tax returns are questionable.
Similar? Maybe so.
* Even if legal, no President should dodge taxes (nor should anybody else imo). Offshoring is a perk lobbied for over decades, under the radar, by the wealthy.
* Romney's secretive, real-world record at Bain has no parallel with the swift-boating distortion of Kerry's service.
* Romney's flip-flopping has a long open record while Kerry's seems tied to a single statement he made about changing his mind.
* Both have wealth and probably could not run without it.
Anyway, that's my take.

As an aside, let's get the money out of politics, relieving candidates, and those in service, of the necessity of "dialing for dollars" daily, and the need for wealth in order to run. This need puts them in the same class as the Wall Street wealthy, affects their treatment of lobbyists, and can certainly affect their rulings for the rest of us.
Government service is now a stepping stone to cushy corporate jobs in exchange for favorable rulings on issues like taxes, the environment - you name it.
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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As an aside, let's get the money out of politics, relieving candidates, and those in service, of the necessity of "dialing for dollars" daily, and the need for wealth in order to run. This need puts them in the same class as the Wall Street wealthy, affects their treatment of lobbyists, and can certainly affect their rulings for the rest of us.
Government service is now a stepping stone to cushy corporate jobs in exchange for favorable rulings on issues like taxes, the environment - you name it.
Agreed!
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