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Old 09-26-2012, 04:32 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Kerby W-R View Post
This is an article about key swing states and the lead that our President has in those states.
Poll: Obama opens substantial leads in key swing states - CBS News
Nice try. Don't think so. When you over sample Democrats, it's easy to get the results you want. These polls are worthless.

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Old 09-26-2012, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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There's a poll thread
 
Old 09-26-2012, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Nice try. Don't think so. When you over sample Democrats, it's easy to get the results you want. These polls are worthless.
I think NY Times is plus 11 Dems. Still Romney is not doing well at the moment. I do take solace in the fact he is running even among independents which means the race will come down to turnout.
 
Old 09-26-2012, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The MSM polls are definitely skewed in the Dems favor however Romney is not doing well. What's frustrating is he is not staking out clear concise policy goals and not attacking Obama effectively. When the 47% comment came out he should have made it clear that he is referring to the food stamp perpetual dependency class. What happened to Obamas didn't build that statement? The polls were tightening based on that effort and his welfare to work ads but they appear to be gone.
 
Old 09-26-2012, 05:24 AM
 
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When we don`t like what the polls are telling us we`ll just call them skewed..aka creating an alternate reality. BTW,FOX news has Obama up by 7 points in Ohio and Florida.
 
Old 09-26-2012, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Nice try. Don't think so. When you over sample Democrats, it's easy to get the results you want. These polls are worthless.

Let me point out that these same polls were accurate in 2008. Obama is leading Romney 9 and 10 points in Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania. Romney is toast. Repubs better start planning for 2016 right now. Face it Romney is a terrible candidate and republicans know it. The big leads in Ohio and Florida came after the Romney fundraiser video was leaked. Clearly the video had an effect on the polls.
 
Old 09-26-2012, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Now we have the Mitt blame the polls game(idea originated by Ralph Reed of Abramoff fame), instead of the fact his campaign stinks is why his numbers are tanking. People see thru the garbage and see the real intent of Vulture and Voucher.
 
Old 09-26-2012, 06:23 AM
 
Location: NC
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Not sure if it has been mentioned but Real Clear Politics has moved Ohio to Leans Obama catagory from toss up catagory:

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

As Ohio goes...
 
Old 09-26-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The MSM polls are definitely skewed in the Dems favor however Romney is not doing well. What's frustrating is he is not staking out clear concise policy goals and not attacking Obama effectively. When the 47% comment came out he should have made it clear that he is referring to the food stamp perpetual dependency class. What happened to Obamas didn't build that statement? The polls were tightening based on that effort and his welfare to work ads but they appear to be gone.
What was that plan for OHIO again
RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map
 
Old 09-26-2012, 07:05 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Let me point out that these same polls were accurate in 2008. Obama is leading Romney 9 and 10 points in Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania. Romney is toast. Repubs better start planning for 2016 right now. Face it Romney is a terrible candidate and republicans know it. The big leads in Ohio and Florida came after the Romney fundraiser video was leaked. Clearly the video had an effect on the polls.
That 47% comment was a yawner, when you heard the complete clip, and he was right; there probably are 47% that will not vote for him. It's always that way, unless we are looking at a real landslide (as in Reagan).

The Democrats were trying to make that comment mean something it didn't, and people know it. We aren't that stupid. Worse, was probably Obama's statement that "The private sector is doing fine!" and "You didn't build that!"

I don't trust these polls for a minute.

There is nothing wrong with Romney as a candidate. He has the right message, the right principles, he knows what's wrong, who's responsible, and how to fix it. Bad policies are what's wrong, and they are Obama's policies. Obama has no clue how jobs are created, or who creates them.
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