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Old 09-12-2012, 08:10 AM
 
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Let's see how he handles this latest Mideast mess. Maybe he'll go back on Letterman and outline his plans for us. Netanyahu could drop by as well and make some suggestions.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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Exactly!! Especially when axelrod is harassing polling services when the numbers are not in the dems favor.
Dems do better in polls because they are at home when the phone rings.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Ya might want to check out the RCP average before you get all tingly.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - General Election: Romney vs. Obama
The OP is accounting for a new poll, which might signal a trend downward. The RCP average will not capture any trend if it started today. But again, there may or may not be a trend. Predictions were for this week to be a good one for Obama post-convention but then the polls to settle back. Let's see this time next week whether it's a bounce or a bump.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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IMO, this election is not how great a president that Romney can be...but how poor a president that Obama has been. It just can't get any worse.

Vote Romney/Ryan on November 6th.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Those are the same white men that Obama was already trailing. Their numbers are overwhelmed by all the other groups the President leads with. The total numbers are what's important and the President leads in the totals.

It sure looks like desperation has set in on the Romney side -- clinging to a single ray of hope.
Uhhhh....Obama leads among white women? Really?!?!? According to what poll?

Independents, regardless of race and gender, are going to decide the election. Romney being up 11-14 with independents is not bad news for him. Romney and Obama are statistically tied in the ABC News/Washington Post poll that oversampled Democrats.

Let's look at the CNN poll a few days ago that had Obama up by 6. Romney was up by 14 with independents. Massive oversampling of Democrats. Even you would have to realize that. (Incidentally, Romney was up less with independents in their poll that showed the candidates exactly tied right after the RNC.) You cannot tell me with a straight face that Obama will win the election if Romney does end up winning independents by 11-14.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/im.../10/rel10a.pdf

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Old 09-12-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Look, I know how much you all hate Rasmussen (even though Nate Silver who you all love says they're less biased than PPP, Pew, even Survey USA, etc.). Anyway, let's compare Rasmussen's tracking poll today to a few days ago. Even if you don't trust their numbers themselves, look at the trend. Today? Obama +1.

A few days ago? Obama +5.

When "leaners" are included, Romney +1.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™

The bounce is definitely going away.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: South East
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Dems do better in polls because they are at home when the phone rings.
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: South East
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Uhhhh....Obama leads among white women? Really?!?!? According to what poll?

Independents, regardless of race and gender, are going to decide the election. Romney being up 11 with independents is not bad news for him.
Exactly!!

Polls show Romney soars with independent voters | WashingtonExaminer.com
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com

Obama as of now is in great shape with almost an 80% chance of winning...
Fivethitrtyeight > all
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Seems if Obama ever got a bounce, it is already over...

Oba-meh's 'Dead Cat Bounce' show is over. The cat has left the stage.
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