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Old 09-19-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The Facts

...so the $500 billion figure comes from the difference over 10 years between anticipated Medicare spending (what is known as “the baseline”) and the changes the law makes to reduce spending.

...The savings actually are wrung from health-care providers, not Medicare beneficiaries.
Exactly!

Obama is reducing Medicare spending by $500 billion by cutting payments to health-care providers.


So... are we to believe that health-care providers are going to provide $500 billion worth of services and treatments for free?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:24 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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And Obama does not believe in the other half.



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Old 09-19-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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Why don't you admit. you don't even comprehend the remark that was made?

Romney's 47% remark, was about the 47% pf the people who were going to vote Obama no matter what, because they have become dependent on the government to provide for them.

He was basically saying, that he will never ever reach these 47% because their decision has been made, more than likely because they feel that someone else will take away what they believe they are entitled to, so he needs to reach out to the 53% who are willing to listen. Too bad many people can't understand his comment.
After the righties out of context miscomprehensions of Obamas "You didnt make that" statement its now a bit rich to come down on the Dems for supposedly taking one of Romney's statements out of context.
Defend the Romney if you like but the guy thinks half the voting public are a bunch of mooches looking for government handouts, With an unemployment rate of 8% its rather an insult to the 39% of his perceived moochers who are out there every day working
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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You really believe that MOST seniors own their homes outright?

You need to get out into the world, or at least this country.

They do. Majority do own their own homes.

Seniors will play key role in housing recovery | Inman News


This is a bit dated in being 2006

Survey of Home Owners on Values finds Vast Majority of Senior Citizens Have No Home Mortgage

What is your source of contradictory information?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: FL
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You dont pay taxes if your in a combat zone. Im pretty sure Romney was not talking about the troops. More people who are trying to live off the gov. handouts instead of trying to find a job. If you are in the military you are working
Well then he was wrong when he said 47%, right? Yes, he was. He lumped them all in including the military. Why does every one have to explain what he said.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Exactly!

Obama is reducing Medicare spending by $500 billion by cutting payments to health-care providers.


So... are we to believe that health-care providers are going to provide $500 billion worth of services and treatments for free?
Not for free of course, for less. A couple weeks ago, Aetna purchased a company called Coventry Health for 7 BILLION dollars. Why? Aetna is betting 7 billion that Obama wins, ObamaCare stays the law, and that there is a lot of money to be made in the Medicare/Medicaid market under ObamaCare and in spite of reduced payments to providers. Coventry has broad exposure there and that is why Aetna wants them.

Forget the polls. Follow the money and you will see which way this election and healthcare in America is going to go. No company gambles 7 billion without the odds being in favor of their position (Obama win).
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Exactly!

Obama is reducing Medicare spending by $500 billion by cutting payments to health-care providers.


So... are we to believe that health-care providers are going to provide $500 billion worth of services and treatments for free?
That is not ALL that is in the article, or my post.

Try reading the entire thing instead of cherry-picking one thing.

Do some people really need their hands held? sheesh
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Default Paul Ryan says Romney's words were inarticulate

Paul Ryan is certainly not helping Romney with that comment. He should have said nothing.

TRENDING: Paul Ryan says Romney comments
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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Not for free of course, for less.
So... if Obama is re-elected, will YOU and every other liberal agree to work for less? Because that's what Obama thinks health-care providers will do, either provide the same care and treatments for less, or provide less care and treatment or seniors.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: FL
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No. Combat pay is paid out of appropriated funds that are non-taxable. Not being taxed on income for serving in a war zone has ZERO to do with Romney's statements.
Sorry but he lumped them in the 47% as they didn't pay taxes. If you want to take them out then as you are well aware it wouldn't be 47%. So are you wrong or Mr. Romney?
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