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Old 09-19-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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You mean he got caught being an a**hole and tried to slither around it.

Just like Obamas "you didn't build it comments"

Eh, I dont want to go through this entire expanority cycle again. I've already explained my position. Good night!
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I think I agree with Peggy Noonan's take on it:

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This is not how big leaders talk, it’s how shallow campaign operatives talk: They slice and dice the electorate like that, they see everything as determined by this interest or that. They’re usually young enough and dumb enough that nobody holds it against them, but they don’t know anything. They don’t know much about America.
Time for an Intervention - Peggy Noonan's Blog - WSJ
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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Just like Obamas "you didn't build it comments"

Eh, I dont want to go through this entire expanority cycle again. I've already explained my position. Good night!
Not at all.

1. Mitt Romney said his in hiding because he is too slimy to say it during a public address whereas Obama said his to the public.

2. Obama's was easy to understand (to those who have the ability to do so) that people generally have help from those around you.

There was no hidden message there.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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My take on that comment was that Romney was admitting that he and his fellow "job creator" cronies are not hiring or doing anything to help improve the economy to increase the odds of Romney getting elected. IMO, he was saying that as soon as he is elected the business leaders and Congress will end their dangerous obstructionism and things will almost immediately get better.

That would certainly be in line with the GOP's top goal of preventing a second Obama term, wouldn't it? Deliberately restrain our economic recovery, blame Obama for it, then "solve" the problem once he's defeated.

One has to wonder, though, what they'll do when he wins.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:31 AM
 
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Not at all.

1. Mitt Romney said his in hiding because he is too slimy to say it during a public address whereas Obama said his to the public.

2. Obama's was easy to understand (to those who have the ability to do so) that people generally have help from those around you.

There was no hidden message there.
100% false.

Obama made his comments about "bitter" whites clinging to bibles and guns and not liking people who look differently than them while in a private fundraiser in San Francisco. Look it up. He did not know he was being recorded.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Perhaps this will help those few who are not clear on meaning of in context and out of context...

out of context definition | English dictionary for learners | Reverso Collins

Last edited by florida.bob; 09-20-2012 at 05:15 AM..
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:15 AM
 
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I think I agree with Peggy Noonan's take on it:



Time for an Intervention - Peggy Noonan's Blog - WSJ
peggy noonan also said this:

Obama is out of ideas, and Clinton's speech was unworthy of him.

i don't see the liberals trotting that one out.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:23 AM
 
Location: North America
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Default A Breakdown of the "47%"

We all heard it, Mitt mentioning the 47% he won't worry about. A breakdown of the 47% Mitt referred to in the now famous (or infamous) viral video...

Who are Mitt Romney's 47 percent? A breakdown | Political Headlines | Comcast

Who are Mitt Romney's 47 percent? A breakdown

WASHINGTON — Just which 47 percent of Americans was Mitt Romney was talking about? It's hard to say. He lumped together three different ways of sorting people in what he's called less-than-elegant remarks.

Each of those three groups — likely Obama voters, people who get federal benefits and people who don't pay federal income taxes — contains just under half of all Americans, in the neighborhood of 47 percent at a given moment. There's some overlap, but the three groups are quite distinct.
Confusingly, Romney spoke as if they're made up of the same batch of Americans.

A look at the three groups
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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We all heard it, Mitt mentioning the 47% he won't worry about. A breakdown of the 47% Mitt referred to in the now famous (or infamous) viral video...

Who are Mitt Romney's 47 percent? A breakdown | Political Headlines | Comcast

Who are Mitt Romney's 47 percent? A breakdown

These folks...

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Old 09-20-2012, 05:35 AM
 
Location: FL
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Well it's him (what he said he meant) versus what you think he meant. So whose spinning what? Considering that he said "47% of the people", which I find a bit vague myself, it's impossible to know either way.

But considering that I think that pretty much every republican amd democrat knows that the elderly and those on unemployment have paid their dues into the system, it's also kind of hard to swallow your argument as well.

That's why at the end of the day, like most things in life, this is all much ado about nothing...
I didn't find the part where he said "47% of the people" vague at all. That is as you well know the republicans harping on that don't pay taxes just like Romney said.
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