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Old 09-23-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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Is that you Jeane Dixon?

I heard you were clairvoyant, but I didn't know you could instantly read the minds of large groups.

That sure is some talent you have there swami.
Hahaaa, sorry I knew people there and they said Ryan was booed. They don't like what he wants to do to medicare. Why is that so hard for you to believe.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Hahaaa, sorry I knew people there and they said Ryan was booed. They don't like what he wants to do to medicare. Why is that so hard for you to believe.
But, booed off the stage. There weren't enough people booing for him to leave. I guess the AARP forgot to sign up enough to get him off the stage.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:31 PM
 
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One would think Natalie would at least investigate to inform her father as to what is going on. Maybe they both drink from the same glass of Obama koolaid though.
How dare you insinuate that my father doesn't know what is going on in politics. Without a doubt he is more informed than you are. And my gut tells me he is more of a man than you. He was in WW2 and CIA to fight for your ass. And you have no idea what he went through and what it cost our family. What did you do to protect our country.
My dad left the republican party because they left him by concentrating on social issues
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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Try to stay with the thread topic. I know it's difficult but the ole switch to the other guy/different topic, is so transparent when you have a weak argument for your failed candidate.
Excellent point! I personally think Ryan jumping into the lion's den with the seniors at the AARP Convention was a bad move considering the week Romney had. Makes no sense at all but hey, if you want to anger your only possible voting base, go right ahead. Romney/Ryan are counting are those over 50 white males and they are obviously not buying what they are selling when you tell them we are going to repeal Obamacare and take your Medicare and turn into a voucher program.
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:46 AM
 
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I am sure pre baby boom families are chomping at the bit to take in and support their respective parents, the way people used to do before all these silly " entitlements". Back then the average life expectancy for a man was 58 and a woman 62 so most families did not have a bunch of old folk needing their financial support taking up space and hogging the remote, in their homes.

The first boomers turned 65 in 2011. The fun has just begun.
Don't know exactly where you got your demographic from, but it was in the 1930's that a man only lived
to 57 and a women lived to 65...thus the argument that no one was really going to be "collecting" anyways....
So, "the way" folks used to do it, before those silly "entitlements" does not even apply.

I know back in the 1970's-80's, a lot of the folks who are on SS and Medicare NOW, had their parents transfer their wealth, so they could declare them as indigent, and get them on the public dole for long term nursing home care, while still "keeping their inheritance intact".

So, this notion "the good old' days" when folks did/wanted to take care of/pay for their ailing parents is quite the myth.
Bottom line - it was a burden back then, it's a burden now, and especially now that folks
are living, maybe "too long", from a productive stand point.

Is it right? No, but it's honest.
As a society, let's decide WHEN, not if, we will have single payer universal health care in this country,
and two, Put a stop to Congress "stealing" from Social Security to pay for "Wars":

On March 16, 2011, Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) uttered the following words during a Senate speech:

“Congresses under both Republican and Democrat control, both Republican and Democrat presidents, have stolen money from social security and spent it. The money’s gone. It’s been used for another purpose.”
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:52 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Default Dang, we have the makings of a writer here!

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He was still on the stage and doing a good job of educating some folks it looked like to me. Actually I don't know if they were booing Ryan or Obamacare. Your article also states that he was cheered during his speech too. I guess that didn't make the video at old Huff post for some reason or your thread title either.

I suggest trying again or are you just counting on the swooners who never read links or watch videos to jump in screaming like usual?
You make excellent points. I was watching part of that speech too (not sure how much I missed), and he certainly was doing a good job of "educating," and he was very artuculate. It wasn't as much a campaign speech, I thought, as it was a lecture. I found myself giving him my full attention.

But, of course, the left always attempts to hide the real "meat" in a speech like that, and look for some tiny detail that might be misused and edited out to paint a totally different picture. They try to tell us that what we heard was not what we thought we heard. Well, I hate to tell them, I have ears. I heard what you heard.

The Romney/Ryan capmpaign draws huge crowds, while the Obama campaign must bus in supporters (Mansfield Ohio a few weeks back — reported by Ohio Tea Partiers who were there. That's right, lefties; you only think the Tea Party is dead).
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:53 AM
 
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I personally think Ryan jumping into the lion's den with the seniors at the AARP Convention was a bad move
It was a bad move, picking Ryan as the VP, for exactly the same reason.
Romney lost the election then and there, IMO.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:29 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I think seniors are the most educated demographic in this election so they don't need educating Just because they are old does not mean they are not well informed. And they were definitely booing Ryan because they don't want a voucher system.
With the lies being poured out daily by the left (such as yours above), they definitely do nead educating about the Ryan Plan vs. ObamaCare, which does indeed strip $716 B from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare. And the Independent Payment Advisory Board is tasked with the job of reducing costsby rationing care. This board will determine what treatments are available to seniors.

As a senior myself, I'd prefer the Ryan plan, which offers choice in plans, and not limit what treatments are available.
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:45 AM
 
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As a senior myself, I'd prefer the Ryan plan, which offers choice in plans, and not limit what treatments are available.
Why wouldn't you prefer the Ryan plan
You are already a "senior" - you are not affected - you are exempt.
You have been given a "guarantee" regardless.
Live long and prosper, as they say
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:42 AM
 
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Hahaaa, sorry I knew people there and they said Ryan was booed. They don't like what he wants to do to medicare. Why is that so hard for you to believe.
I saw the video, it was a mixed reaction and he actually got more cheers than anything when he announced that Ocare would get repealed.
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