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Old 09-29-2012, 01:04 PM
 
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He said it would be revenue neutral for the rich, not everyone.

ROMNEY: Well I can tell you that people at the high end, high-income taxpayers, are going to have fewer deductions and exemptions. Those numbers are going to come down. Otherwise they’d get a tax break, and I want to make sure people understand, despite what the Democrats said at their convention, I am not reducing taxes on high-income taxpayers. I’m bringing down the rate of taxation, but also brigning down deductions and exemptions at the high end so that the revenues stay the same, the taxes people pay stay the same — middle income people are going to get a break, but at the high end the tax coming in stays the same
I don't think you understand what revenue neutral means. It cannot be simply "revenue neutral for the rich". It is either revenue neutral, meaning it neither adds or subtracts from the debt, or it is not.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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It's funny how all the independent analysis directly contradicts the claims made in the OP. I guess facts really don't matter to right wing nut jobs.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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I don't think you understand what revenue neutral means. It cannot be simply "revenue neutral for the rich". It is either revenue neutral, meaning it neither adds or subtracts from the debt, or it is not.
Actually thats not at all what he's discussing, he's discussing revenue neutral to the person GETTING THE TAX REDUCTION. He never said it wouldnt add or substract from the debt.

Tell me how Obamas plan cut the deficits in half, like he said he'd do..
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Exactly! The warmongers have some kind of plan to fund this and you can be sure that plan will
hurt the poor and middle class in this country.
Well when it starts would King 0bama go to congress and get a constitutional declaration of war or just do whatever his owners tell him???

As far as Zero or Romney tax plans.... The House is in charge of that not the President....
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It's funny how all the independent analysis directly contradicts the claims made in the OP. I guess facts really don't matter to right wing nut jobs.
When you get down to it, none of it matters. Romney is going to lose badly and his half baked ideas will go away with him.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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Actually thats not at all what he's discussing, he's discussing revenue neutral to the person GETTING THE TAX REDUCTION. He never said it wouldnt add or substract from the debt.
You pulled that quote out yourself. Romney has indeed stated that his tax plan would be revenue neutral, referring to the national debt, you just don't really know what you're talking about.


Romney has pledged to:
cut current marginal income tax rates by 20 percent,
preserve and enhance incentives for saving and investment
eliminate the alternative minimum tax,
eliminate the estate tax, and
maintain revenue neutrality


Please do the math (as if you could, given the vagaries of #2) and tell me how that is possible.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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When you get down to it, none of it matters. Romney is going to lose badly and his half baked ideas will go away with him.
Well even if he does were gonna be looking at a government shutdown and credit downgrade because as I said the house is in charge of taxing...

Im praying they just shut it down and refuse the next debt limit increase...
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Well even if he does were gonna be looking at a government shutdown and credit downgrade because as I said the house is in charge of taxing...

Im praying they just shut it down and refuse the next debt limit increase...
They won't. Elections have consequences.
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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You pulled that quote out yourself. Romney has indeed stated that his tax plan would be revenue neutral, referring to the national debt, you just don't really know what you're talking about.

Romney has pledged to:
cut current marginal income tax rates by 20 percent,
preserve and enhance incentives for saving and investment
eliminate the alternative minimum tax,
eliminate the estate tax, and
maintain revenue neutrality

Please do the math (as if you could, given the vagaries of #2) and tell me how that is possible.
Because you grow the economy, the same way its ALWAYS done..

Tax revenues went up under Clinton after he cut tax rates
Tax revenues went up under Bush after he cut tax rates

Are you saying both Clinton and Bush were super human?
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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Because you grow the economy, the say way its ALWAYS done..

Tax revenues went up under Clinton after he cut tax rates
Tax revenues went up under Bush after he cut tax rates

Are you saying both Clinton and Bush were super human?
lmao. So you really are just throwing out talking points "grow the economy" without any clue of what you're trying to talk about. This is about the national debt. Bush exploded our debt, and Obama hasn't stemmed the tide at all. Romney would only add to that given his tax plan, or he would have to increase taxes on the middle class. It's as simple as that.

I should have stopped talking to you when you started pretending that you knew what revenue neutral meant.
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