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ahahahaha if Romney loses it will be because the gop has moved too far right, so if you pick an even further extremist you'll have no chance. romney should stick with his positions when he ran for governor and he would probably win but the new gop scares away any sane educated person.
Liberals want Santorum because he is unelectable and gives the GOP a black eye every time he speaks. The GOP's image problem this election cycle with young people concerning social issues can partially be blamed on Santorum.
I've come to the conclusion that the right wing propaganda machine does NOT want a GOP or TP candidate to win. As long as there is a Dem in office, O'Reilly, Limbaugh etc can continue to scream that the sky is falling and make huge money selling their books. The minute one of their guys gets into office and doesn't do any better, their sales will go down.
Last edited by FrugalYankee; 10-02-2012 at 07:13 AM..
Reason: typo - *huge* not *hugs*!
I've come to the conclusion that the right wing propaganda machine does NOT want a GOP or TP candidate to win. As long as there is a Dem in office, O'Reilly, Limbaugh etc can continue to scream that the sky is falling and make hugs money selling their books. The minute one of their guys gets into office and doesn't do any better, their sales will go down.
Wow. Interesting theory. I think it has some teeth
In open elections, the GOP almost always nominates the "guy who came in second last time". Like Romney. And McCain. And Dole. And GHW Bush. And Reagan. Such nominees have experience running (yes, there are many lessons to be learned running and failing), they have established campaign contacts and extensive political and donor networks they can easily revive four or eight years after their first run.
But no one every believes it. In 2004, everyone sneered at the idea that McCain would be the 2008 nominee. Ditto in 2008, re Romney in 2012.
Most people just never learn to see the patterns in history, and they can't distinguish between trends that happen and what they want to happen.
Santorum may not win the nomination in 2016, but if he runs (and he continues to position himself as though he will) he will be the favorite. Not the lock, but the favorite. Just like Romney and McCain and Dole and GHW Bush and Reagan before him.
I am wondering if mittens has the gall to run again in 2016 after he loses again, maybe three times is the charm
LOL, Many people had Gall to run 3 or more times and lose each time:
Al Gore 1988, 1992, 2000
Joe Biden ran in 1988, 2008, and for vp in 2012
Estes Kefauver in 52,56 and 60
Adlai Stevenson actually got the nomination twice (52 and 56) and lost both times to Eisenhower. He didn't campaign in 60, but said if he gets picked at the convention he will run
But the King Daddy of them all was William Jennings Bryan. He ran at least 4 times. He was nominated 3 times (1896, 1900, 1908) and lost all three times.
Incidentally, all the people I mentioned above are Democrats. Either they have more faith in their men than the Republicans or these nominees are just hella convincing
Dole may be the man closest to the list of Democrats.
He was chosen for vp in 76 but lost
He ran for presidential nominee in 80 but lost to Reagan
Dole ran for the 3rd time in 88
Dole finally made nominee after 20 years of trying in 96, but got spanked by Clinton in the generals
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