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LOL, Many people had Gall to run 3 or more times and lose each time:
Al Gore 1988, 1992, 2000
Joe Biden ran in 1988, 2008, and for vp in 2012
Estes Kefauver in 52,56 and 60
Adlai Stevenson actually got the nomination twice (52 and 56) and lost both times to Eisenhower. He didn't campaign in 60, but said if he gets picked at the convention he will run
But the King Daddy of them all was William Jennings Bryan. He ran at least 4 times. He was nominated 3 times (1896, 1900, 1908) and lost all three times.
Incidentally, all the people I mentioned above are Democrats. Either they have more faith in their men than the Republicans or these nominees are just hella convincing
Dole may be the man closest to the list of Democrats.
He was chosen for vp in 76 but lost
He ran for presidential nominee in 80 but lost to Reagan
Dole ran for the 3rd time in 88
Dole finally made nominee after 20 years of trying in 96, but got spanked by Clinton in the generals
Reagan didn't get the nomination until his third run, in 1980.
But I think F40 was talking about candidates running after getting the nomination and losing.
There haven't been so many of them.
Adlai Stevenson, as you noted, losing in 1952 then coming back to lose again in 1956, both times to Eisenhower.
Also, Nixon-- losing in 1960 before winning in 1968.
And Dewey-- losing in 1944 to FDR and again in 1948 to Truman.
Finally, Humphrey-- after losing to Nixon in 1968, he again sought the nomination in 1972 but couldn't beat McGovern.
Reagan didn't get the nomination until his third run, in 1980.
But I think F40 was talking about candidates running after getting the nomination and losing.
There haven't been so many of them.
Adlai Stevenson, as you noted, losing in 1952 then coming back to lose again in 1956, both times to Eisenhower.
Also, Nixon-- losing in 1960 before winning in 1968.
And Dewey-- losing in 1944 to FDR and again in 1948 to Truman.
Finally, Humphrey-- after losing to Nixon in 1968, he again sought the nomination in 1972 but couldn't beat McGovern.
And a few others further back in the past.
Oh, well you can add Williams Jennings Bryan. He ran 4 times, he got the nomination 3 times and kept on losing.
President Cleveland too.
He won in 84, then he lost in 88, then he ran again after the loss and won in 92. I dunno if that counts, however, because Cleveland won the popular vote all three times, but lost the EC in 88 after losing one state by only 2000 votes. Remind you of someone??
I'm almost sure after this clown gets streamrolled in November that Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck are going to say that it was because he wasn't conservative enough.
If your theory is, the more evil/right-wing candidate has a better chance with Republican supporters, then Santorum would be a good choice, or Scott Walker. You need someone who is good at baiting voters with lies and then turns on them, and Walker is a master baiter.
Not if they want to win. Santorum is unelectable, plain and simple. He has run 3 times since his single term as Governor, and has won none since.
No contender stands a chance the 3rd time out.
In open elections, the GOP almost always nominates the "guy who came in second last time". Like Romney. And McCain. And Dole. And GHW Bush. And Reagan. Such nominees have experience running (yes, there are many lessons to be learned running and failing), they have established campaign contacts and extensive political and donor networks they can easily revive four or eight years after their first run.
But no one every believes it. In 2004, everyone sneered at the idea that McCain would be the 2008 nominee. Ditto in 2008, re Romney in 2012.
Most people just never learn to see the patterns in history, and they can't distinguish between trends that happen and what they want to happen.
Santorum may not win the nomination in 2016, but if he runs (and he continues to position himself as though he will) he will be the favorite. Not the lock, but the favorite. Just like Romney and McCain and Dole and GHW Bush and Reagan before him.
The problem with these cute theories such as 'the guy who came in second' is that the sample size is tiny. You could probably find something else in common among the guys you list. Say all of them once owned a pair of argyle socks. Then simply find out which among Santorum, Rubio, Jindal, etc. owned argyle socks too, and voila, you've got your candidate...not.
The problem with these cute theories such as 'the guy who came in second' is that the sample size is tiny. You could probably find something else in common among the guys you list. Say all of them once owned a pair of argyle socks. Then simply find out which among Santorum, Rubio, Jindal, etc. owned argyle socks too, and voila, you've got your candidate...not.
Obama will win in 2012, but if the Republicans want a shot at 2016 they shouldnt have Santorium as nominee. He is too extreme. You will need to appeal to the masses, and Santorium doesn't. I think since Obama is the first minority in office this will open doors for other minorities to step in. The days of someone looking like George Washington being in the White House has diminished. I think you have a higher chance getting into the White House now if you look like George Jefferson, the republicans need to consider that fact. This nation is changing rapidly and the GOP hasnt caught on yet.
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