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Old 10-03-2012, 11:41 PM
 
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Live-Blogging The First Presidential Debate 2012 - The Dish | By Andrew Sullivan - The Daily Beast

10.31 pm. Look: you know how much I love the guy, and you know how much of a high information viewer I am, and I can see the logic of some of Obama's meandering, weak, professorial arguments. But this was a disaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach, and his effete, wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving Romney a second look.



Obama looked tired, even bored; he kept looking down; he had no crisp statements of passion or argument; he wasn't there. He was entirely defensive, which may have been the strategy. But it was the wrong strategy. At the wrong moment.



The person with authority on that stage was Romney - offered it by one of the lamest moderators ever, and seized with relish. This was Romney the salesman. And my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. It's beyond depressing. But it's true.



There are two more debates left. I have experienced many times the feeling that Obama just isn't in it, that he's on the ropes and not fighting back, and then he pulls it out. He got a little better over time tonight. But he pulled every punch. Maybe the next two will undo some of the damage. But I have to say I think it was extensive.



10.29 pm. How is Obama's closing statement so ****ing sad, confused and lame? He choked. He lost. He may even have lost the election tonight.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:41 PM
 
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I have a different take. Rope a dope.

This is a three ring bout people. Least we forget that.

Now having stated that, I hope Romeny continues to bash the crap out of this stinking pile of feces we've had as the POSTUS for the last 4 years.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:42 PM
 
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in a recent poll conducted, it revealed obama is favored to stomp willard in the debate by a margin of 22%.
Sounds right to me

"the latest national survey by the pew research center for the people & the press, conducted sept., 27-30 among 1,001 adults, including 828 registered voters, finds that by a 51%-29% margin, more voters say obama will do better than romney in wednesday’s debate."

obama expected to win first presidential debate | pew research center for the people and the press


oopsssssssssssssssssssss hahahahahahahahahahahahaha:d:d:d
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Cool ...

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describing your sales again???

hows sales in the queen city

you will never keep up with keller williams
falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:43 PM
 
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If the election was tomorrow, I'd be inclined to agree with you and the blogger, but since there is a month to go, it's still up in the air.

You being on the Romney campaign will of course disagree.

Who the hell is Andrew Sullivan anyways?
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I cant wait to hear the polls next week..
You can check Rasmussen's tomorrow and Friday.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Romney won.

But here's why.

Obama was attempting to defend and explain his true, real world positions.

Romney was saying whatever anyone wanted to hear. He didn't take a position, in fact he supported things he has explicitly said he doesn't agree with.

It's alot harder to debate when you are trying to be consistent and represent a position like Obama did. Lot easier if you are just trying to appeal to the most people like Romney, even if you have to lie and contradict yourself to do it. And Romney will get away with it, because we are an uneducated country, if you've been paying attention you'd know that the Romney of the debate is not the Romney of his campaign and policies
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default President Obama dignified in maintaining superiority

I thought Lehrer allowed Romney to talk more and did a lousy job of moderating. The President maintained his poise, followed the format, and presented his superior view. He allowed Romney to run his mouth because he knows that Romney is best at using his mouth to dig his political grave.

Romney continued the same GOP rant: Blame the problems under President Obama on Obama, not on the creator of those problems, Bush, and the perpetuation of them, Congressional Republicans. Romney can't pretend as if Bush didn't happen. He can't pretend as if Congressional Republican obstructionism didn't facilitate many of the problems he blames Obama on. He can't change his tune about the 47% he discards, pretending to suddenly be a champion of the middle class just for the debate. he can't hide from the fact that he hails from the party of Bush, that Republicans don't know how to run an economy, that Republicans explode deficits and complain about them only when a Republican is not president. He still hasn't released his tax returns. He still can't hide from his Bain involvement. Romney stinks.

Kudos to President Obama in this debate for tolerating Romney's nonsense.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Dewey Defeats Truman!
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Lightbulb lol...

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Originally Posted by Dale Cooper View Post
1. Your link has nothing to do with the debate. It's old, comparitively speaking.

2. Why all at once are you quoting Gingrich like a Bible, anyway?
The truth is rarely new.

I quote the Bible verbatim.

Try again.
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