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Bush is still popular amoung Conservatives, talk about a horrible president being popular.
The fact is that Obama is still popular because the republicans have put out such a weak and horrible candidate. They have no one to blame but themselves when they lose the election.
and I think most of us would agree with you on that one..
Because he's hard at work cleaning up the nightmarish mess his predecessor left for us.
Oh for heavens sake, that has little or nothing to do with it..That was 4 years ago for heavens sake.
WehoTex, you can't be serious: humble beginning? You must be thinking about Clinton, not Obama? Or Reagan and how about Nixon, even Carter, though his family was in the Peanut business they certainly were not dripping in money. Reagan, like Clinton struggled as children. Maybe you need to check a little closer before you start tellling us, he is the only recent Pres to come from humble surroundings?
Never before in history has a President with such a horrible record been so popular. The closest thing we've ever had to this was FDR in 1936, but at least unemployment was lower then than it was in 1932 when he took office. Obama supports, having no real record to stand on, have been running an overall negative campaign against Romney but Obama himself is no saint and there is a lot of dirt there if you want to dig deep enough. People act like they don't even care about this Libya scandal but I can guarantee if it was a Republican president, the main stream media would be all over it and people would be marching in the streets about it. But Obama can do no wrong!
The main line we hear from Obama supporters on the economy is how much worse it would have been if Obama hadn't have been elected to stop the bleeding. The thing is, we have no way of knowing for sure Obama had anything to do with the economy bottoming in March 2009 plus that was so soon after his inauguration his policies didn't really have time to take effect. Other than that, Obama supporters either whip out race or accuse Republicans of homophobia. Why are these such big issues in such a critical time in our history when we have so much else we need to be focused on?
Why the continued love-fest for Obama among the younger generation who are $40,000 in student loan debt with college degrees they can't use and working at Little Caesars living in their parents' basements?
Current unemployment rate is very close to what is was in 1984 and Reagan was very popular.
Never before in history has a President with such a horrible record been so popular. The closest thing we've ever had to this was FDR in 1936, but at least unemployment was lower then than it was in 1932 when he took office. Obama supports, having no real record to stand on, have been running an overall negative campaign against Romney but Obama himself is no saint and there is a lot of dirt there if you want to dig deep enough. People act like they don't even care about this Libya scandal but I can guarantee if it was a Republican president, the main stream media would be all over it and people would be marching in the streets about it. But Obama can do no wrong!
The main line we hear from Obama supporters on the economy is how much worse it would have been if Obama hadn't have been elected to stop the bleeding. The thing is, we have no way of knowing for sure Obama had anything to do with the economy bottoming in March 2009 plus that was so soon after his inauguration his policies didn't really have time to take effect. Other than that, Obama supporters either whip out race or accuse Republicans of homophobia. Why are these such big issues in such a critical time in our history when we have so much else we need to be focused on?
Why the continued love-fest for Obama among the younger generation who are $40,000 in student loan debt with college degrees they can't use and working at Little Caesars living in their parents' basements?
There's an incredibly simple and obvious reason you can't figure out how he is so popular: your initial assumption that he has "a horrible record" is WRONG.
DUH!
Take off your political blinders and THEN you will understand.
I saw a saying once that fits you to a T:
"When you are not getting the results you expected, reconsider the assumptions you are making to begin with".
Quietly dignified and confident. Supremely intelligent, educated, and poised. A black man who has overcome more adversity than all the previous presidents combined, yet maintains the utmost in character and integrity. He's an effective leader who invites the perspective from the opposition. He's simply twice as good.
Republicans, by comparison, are pathetic, narrow-minded, and bigoted. They fear the success that they know he can bring if he has his way. They fear his potential to benefit this country, to a far greater extent than any Republican can.
He's popular because he's the best...and don't you forget it either.
Overcome more adversity than all previous presidents combined? Confident... or arrogant? The "best"? Everyone else is "bigoted"?
This rubbish deserves no response... one can't reason with an idol worshipper out of touch with reality.
I think we can see lots of reasons and of course I agree with you, it is sometimes hard to understand.
The young college and just out of college crowd: The see him as different from the usual, middle aged and older politicians: He is a family man, has a couple of young daughters (not so young now) and he gave them the ability to continue on mom and dads insurance, plus he would like to repeal or cut back all their student loans.
for minorities: he is the first minority Presidant.
For women; he promises them whatever they want.
For the lower class and lower middle class, he will take the tax burden away from them, even though they don't pay taxes now.
The majority of those who support him, do not totally understand the cost of what he is promising them, nor do they really care. Someone else can pay, they do not understand, we all pay one way or another. If we don't pay via taxes, we will pay via the cost of services, the loss of services and we will see more people working part time or more jobs leaving the country.
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People are afraid of disliking him for fear of being considered 'racist'. The man knows this, and uses this fear to rule with an iron fist. It is thus effectivity legally mandated he must be 'liked' and the american people must engage in sycophantic idolatry.
People are afraid of disliking him for fear of being considered 'racist'. The man knows this, and uses this fear to rule with an iron fist. It is thus effectivity legally mandated he must be 'liked' and the american people must engage in sycophantic idolatry.
Fear? Hardly. While the most blatant racism soon abated, it remained in the public debate in less obvious ways, and still does. We are not the post-racial society we would like to think we are. Take a quick look at the Illegal Immigration forum to see that evidence.
Iron fist? Hardly. Obama drew heavier fire from his own party all through 2010 than he got from his opposition. If anything, he was seen as being far to willing to cave in and compromise throughout all of 2010 and the first half of 2011.
Obama does not need an iron fist. The thing that conservatives simply cannot see is he is the master of the long game. He may have been unprepared at first for the degree of stubborn blind opposition to him during the first year of his Presidency, but he has spent his entire life learning how to get around that kind of opposition. He is the equal of Reagan in his powers to persuade others, and has a very clear vision of what he wants to accomplish. He need no iron glove to unlock a blind man's door, no matter how strong the door itself is.
Look to how he got Bin Ladin. That is the perfect example of how Obama works. He used exactly the same skills to steer his health care bill through, all the way to being an upheld law.
And there is this simple fact: The average person likes him. He grew up in a complicated family of divorce, just as a lot of us have, worked hard to get an education, just as a lot of us have, and likes the same kinds of things most of us like. He's the kind of dedicated family man we all know and like.
.... and he likes to drink a beer on occasion, just like a lot of us do. When he does, he likes to tell a joke, even if it's on him, and he can hold a tune pretty good. He likes the same music most of us like.
Just like Reagan. People connect to those who they see as like themselves in the basics of life.
It's not that Obama is popular, it's that the GOP put up a ****-poor opposition to him.
This election was not the victory of the dems, it was the loss of the GOP.
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Iron fist?
Didn't you get the memo? Barack Obama is simultaneously an inept man with zero accomplishments in office and a brutal dictator who always gets what he wants. Which of those two contradictory things he is depends on which right wing blowhard is complaining, and what they're complaining about.
Didn't you get the memo? Barack Obama is simultaneously an inept man with zero accomplishments in office and a brutal dictator who always gets what he wants. Which of those two contradictory things he is depends on which right wing blowhard is complaining, and what they're complaining about.
And to top it off, he persists in being black. You'd think a man of his stature could have had that fixed by now and cut out three-quarters of the complaints from the opposition.
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