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Old 11-03-2012, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by sware2cod View Post
Here is where it stands now...with 1 more early voting day (what are numbers from 2008?)

early voting in FL thru Friday 11/2


43% dem

40% rep

18% indies
Traditionally GOP gets more cross party voters than Dems and even the most generous of state polls to Obama shows him losing Indies. Florida is essentially wrapped up for Romney with this breakout.

 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default No mystery...

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Originally Posted by hotair2 View Post
Rasmussen is definetly to the right. It has always been that way.

Rasmussen is the house poll for Fox News.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by sanrene View Post
Here's the early vote/absentee numbers.

About 4 million early FL ballots cast -- and growing. Ds leading Rs by 104,000 | Naked Politics

Scroll down to bottom.

WAY OFF 2008 levels for democrats. 280,000 vote lead for dems in 2008.
"The number of total early voters is so high that there's a chance almost 50 percent of the electorate will have voted before Election Day (there are 12 million registered voters, but about 75 percent -- or 9 million -- typically show). Right now, about 44 percent of the 9 million likely voters have already cast their ballots."
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Read more here: About 4 million early FL ballots cast -- and growing. Ds leading Rs by 104,000 | Naked Politics
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
Traditionally GOP gets more cross party voters than Dems and even the most generous of state polls to Obama shows him losing Indies. Florida is essentially wrapped up for Romney with this breakout.
Florida has more registered Democrats.

FL Repubs: 4,212,241 (36% of registered voters)

FL Dems: 2,715,684 (41 % of registered voters)

The remaining registered voters are non-party or other minor party.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think its funny that you would call Republicans dumb, and then you go on to show that you dont have a dam clue how polls are taken..

The irony...
Please explain why he is wrong in your opinion. Polls don't sample based on party, the sample based on sex, age and race.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ace Rothstein View Post
Please explain why he is wrong in your opinion. Polls don't sample based on party, the sample based on sex, age and race.
Because they dont randomly call people out of the phone book.

If they expect 37% Democratic turnout, they try to get 37% of the poll results to be Democratic..

It would be totally ridiculous to randomly call people and then ignore that you might be calling a highly Democratic, or a highly Republican are, and pretend your results are accurate.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Because they dont randomly call people out of the phone book.

If they expect 37% Democratic turnout, they try to get 37% of the poll results to be Democratic..

It would be totally ridiculous to randomly call people and then ignore that you might be calling a highly Democratic, or a highly Republican are, and pretend your results are accurate.
Polls do not try to guess turnout, it just doesn't happen. They do randomly call people and report on the party ID, that's all.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Because they dont randomly call people out of the phone book.

If they expect 37% Democratic turnout, they try to get 37% of the poll results to be Democratic..

It would be totally ridiculous to randomly call people and then ignore that you might be calling a highly Democratic, or a highly Republican are, and pretend your results are accurate.
I can't believe that someone would say this. This is completely false. It is the dumbest comment I have ever read about polling and reflects total ignorance of how it is done and how statistical inference works. You do not know what you are talking about. Please stay out of these conversation in the future as you run the risk of having people believe what you say.

Why does this muddleheaded notion that they select x number of dems, y number of reps and z number of indies or whatever persist? What are we teaching in our schools?

They DO call random numbers from phone lists. They DO NOT ask party ID until the end. If the sample is too dem or too rep, then in theory that is handled by the margin of error. Get an education and get back with those of us who do have one.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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Default Final Des Moines Register Poll from Iowa: Obama 47, Romney 42

More good news for Obama, more bad news for Romney.

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Iowans are feeling more optimistic about where the nation is headed, and they’re giving President Barack Obama the credit.

Obama is up 5 percentage points in Iowa, leading Republican Mitt Romney 47 percent to 42 percent, according to a new Des Moines Register Iowa Poll, although the results also contain signs of hope for Romney, political strategists said.
Des Moines Register poll: Obama up 47-42 - POLITICO.com
 
Old 11-03-2012, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake Area
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Haha, I tore this site up 2 days ago and showed that their projections are MATHMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, and here ya go, another left wing kook, posting the exact same link..

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No, what you showed 2 days ago is that you don't know statistics or understand algorithms.
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