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Old 10-19-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Old people. I work in public housing and many older people do not have a "valid" ID, meaning they may have one but it is expired or they have some sort of card/documentation with their name but do not have a picture ID.

Many of our resident's, their only form of ID is their community ID card that we provide them for access to our buildings for free. And those cards are not considered a "valid" form of ID because they are not made by a government agency and have no identitifying number.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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How does that work if you were born at home six, seven, eight decades ago?


Why New Photo ID Laws Mean Some Won't Vote : NPR

How it worked in PA was that one was filed by a County official or Dr. after the fact. Ran into that with my mother. Born on 1/1/21 but the Dr. filed and dated it 1/6/21. The discrepancy created issues with Social Security and Medicare. She also insisted on renewing her driver's license after she stopped driving.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't know why the later filing date would be a problem. I mean, ALL births are filed "after the fact". One of my kids was born July 4 (I'm not going to say the year to protect privacy, but this kid is a 20something). The BC was signed by the dr. on July 6 but not signed by the county clerk's office until July 20. I suspect a lot of people were on vacation then.

My father always claimed he had no BC, used a baptism cert to join the Merchant Marine in WW II. When my mom sent away for mine when I turned 16 and needed it for something (maybe driver's license?), she asked for his, too, and lo and behold, he had one filed with the state of PA! He was born at home in 1914.

But I digress. My mom actually had her license revoked or whatever you call it b/c of her vision. She couldn't renew. Lots of old people are in that position. My MIL is now 93, and doesn't drive, sold her car. I don't know if she has a state ID. I do know she plans to vote.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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Old people. I work in public housing and many older people do not have a "valid" ID, meaning they may have one but it is expired or they have some sort of card/documentation with their name but do not have a picture ID.

Many of our resident's, their only form of ID is their community ID card that we provide them for access to our buildings for free. And those cards are not considered a "valid" form of ID because they are not made by a government agency and have no identitifying number.
Most elderly I know have a state picture ID card. It is necessary to board a plane, go to the doctor, ER's, open a bank account and in so many other instances to function in our society. Claiming that many or most elderly do not have one or can't get one is just a cop out.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Most elderly I know have a state picture ID card. It is necessary to board a plane, go to the doctor, ER's, open a bank account and in so many other instances to function in our society. Claiming that many or most elderly do not have one or can't get one is just a cop out.
The link I posted last night states that 11% of people do not have the proper ID. I'm not sure how many are elderly. The need for such ID seems to depend, as some are saying they have to present ID at the dr and some do not, for example. Few elderly are opening new bank accounts; none of them are getting carded at the liquor store, many don't fly, etc.

Part of the problem is that some states have limited the types of ID they will accept to just a few.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:30 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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I get carded every time I buy liquor. In MD vendors have decided that it's easier to ask for ID than to pay the fines for the constant stings that go on for underage liquor and tobacco sales. Even the guy at the convenience store I'm in everyday for the paper and cigarettes cards me when I get a 6 pack.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The link I posted last night states that 11% of people do not have the proper ID. I'm not sure how many are elderly. The need for such ID seems to depend, as some are saying they have to present ID at the dr and some do not, for example. Few elderly are opening new bank accounts; none of them are getting carded at the liquor store, many don't fly, etc.

Part of the problem is that some states have limited the types of ID they will accept to just a few.
This is true for many (college) students who do have school issued ID but may not yet drive. while their school ID may be accepted in general, it does not allow them to register to vote in many states.

I grew up in NYC. I did not get a driver's license until I was 30. Had absolutely no need for one. I had a passport before I had a driver's license but, that is, ironically, not acceptable proof in many states because it is not "state-issued."
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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I could be wrong on this, but isn't absentee voting the biggest violater of voter fraud? I don't care what republicans say, if minorities didn't have that much of effect in who wins the election, you wouldn't hear a peep from the righties about all this voter fraud that goes on.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I don't know why the later filing date would be a problem. I mean, ALL births are filed "after the fact". One of my kids was born July 4 (I'm not going to say the year to protect privacy, but this kid is a 20something). The BC was signed by the dr. on July 6 but not signed by the county clerk's office until July 20. I suspect a lot of people were on vacation then.

My father always claimed he had no BC, used a baptism cert to join the Merchant Marine in WW II. When my mom sent away for mine when I turned 16 and needed it for something (maybe driver's license?), she asked for his, too, and lo and behold, he had one filed with the state of PA! He was born at home in 1914.

But I digress. My mom actually had her license revoked or whatever you call it b/c of her vision. She couldn't renew. Lots of old people are in that position. My MIL is now 93, and doesn't drive, sold her car. I don't know if she has a state ID. I do know she plans to vote.

Same here. My son was born on 12/25. Didn't file his birth until after the first of the year.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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I grew up in NYC. I did not get a driver's license until I was 30. Had absolutely no need for one. I had a passport before I had a driver's license but, that is, ironically, not acceptable proof in many states because it is not "state-issued."
Please provide proof that any state would not accept a US passport. I believe the requirement is "government issued", not "state issued".
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