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No they don't get nominated because the GOP machine doesn't allow it. But they are losing control and if their man Romney loses this election (that the GOP had no business losing), the establishment is going to be thrown to the curb.
BTW, they are not "far right" they are conservative, constituationally sound candidates.
The GOP machine does not allow it because they have no chance of winning. The democratic machine does not allow liberals to win either. The last liberal to win was Carter. Obama is not governing like a liberal. Contrast Obama to Bernie Sanders...now there is a liberal.
I like Huntsman a lot, he had my attention (and I'm a lifelong Dem.) and if he'd held to his beliefs and actually won the nomination he very well might have had my vote.
But he's too sane for the TP/Idealogue/Evangelical-driven GOP of today. He never would have won the nomination, and his withdrawal shows that he wasn't willing to cave to the far right to gain traction.
If Romney loses (and I think he will) I'd expect them to run even farther to the Right at least one more time, maybe with Santorum, who will lose... by a lot.
That will be rock bottom for the GOP.
Then, maybe the GOP will fracture, with TP/Idealogue/Evangelicals heading right, and a new, more reasonable brand of Republicans, led by Huntsman, will emerge, perhaps as a true, viable, 3rd party. Not sure which side will get to keep the name "republican."
The GOP machine does not allow it because they have no chance of winning. The democratic machine does not allow liberals to win either. The last liberal to win was Carter. Obama is not governing like a liberal. Contrast Obama to Bernie Sanders...now there is a liberal.
Obama has governed from left (e.g...Obamacare first and foremost) but you're not saying much by using Sanders as a benchmark. He's a proclaimed socialist.
Not true. I vote Democrat because the GOP is nuts right now on the social issues and "no new revenues." All they need to do is get rid of the njs, use common sense on the budget, and be realistic about the MIC. I really liked the "look" of Huntsman although, admittedly, I hadn't delved into his policies. But, he did seem sane - which is not true of too many Republican candidates these days.
I'm a hereditary Republican - by every principal of history, inclination, tradition and self-interest, I should be a Republican. My ancestors were Republicans almost from the beginning of the party, have held office as Republicans, led state and local Republican organizations, campaigned for Republicans. One of my most cherished possessions is a photo of my aunt arm-in-arm with General Eisenhower, when he held the highest office and she held a minor one. But I can't vote Republican now - and by the end of her life, neither could she. I'd be delighted if the party re-joined us, returned to common sense and recovered its sanity. I'd be the first to welcome it home, but I don't expect it.
As an Independent. I would love to have the chance to vote for Jon Huntsman in the 2016 Presidential election. I don't know if he will run, but if he does and he gets the nomination then I will certainly vote for him.
Yeah,the Dems will need a more moderate candidate in 2016. Unless Barack wants to try a Grover Cleveland and run after he loses this time.
He is very practical. He is very honest. Evolution is real, global warming is real. Practical understanding of foreign policy. Served as ambassador to 4 U.S. Presidents.
So based on he believes in evolution and global warming you support him, what policies does he support in terms of these issues?
The GOP machine does not allow it because they have no chance of winning. The democratic machine does not allow liberals to win either. The last liberal to win was Carter. Obama is not governing like a liberal. Contrast Obama to Bernie Sanders...now there is a liberal.
Do you know he supports a balanced budget amdmenment?
Did you know he is very much pro life?
Governor Huntsman is pro-life. He has stated that he supports restriction on abortion except in the cases of rape or incest. In a 2011 speech, he urged the Republican party not to abandon it's focus on abortion by stating that Republicans should not focus on economic life at the cost of human life. He stated that while in office, he signed every piece of pro-life legislation that came across his desk. He has stated that he supports a right to life amendment.
There were three main pieces of legislation dealing with abortion that Jon Huntsman signed into law. These bills were HB 85 in 2006 and HB 90 and HB 222 in 2009. HB 85 required that a minor obtain parental consent prior to getting an abortion. There were exceptions given for the health of the mother and familial concerns. HB 90 makes it illegal to perform an abortion in the second trimester and made it a second degree felony for the physicians to perform such a procedure. There was no punishment for the mother of the fetus. HB 222 dealt with the pain that a child may feel during an abortion. It allowed the mother time to consider medication to ensure that the fetus did not feel pain after informing them that such a thing was a possibility.
Did you know he supports the Ryan Budget?
Governor Huntsman supported the Paul Ryan plan to address the budget deficit, Social Security, and Medicare. In May of 2011, Governor Huntsman wrote an op-ed supporting the plan. He stated that he admired Congressman Ryan's plan to save Medicare and that those who were opposed to the plan had a moral imperative to propose an alternative. He reasserted his support for the plan numerous times throughout the campaign
DID you know on taxes ?
Governor Huntsman has introduced an economic plan called the "Time to Compete" plan as part of his 2012 Presidential campaign. Tax reform is one of the major components of that plan and Governor Huntsman claims that his plan is revenue neutral. The plan consists of removing all incentives and deductions, creating three new brackets of 8%, 14%, and 23%, and lowering the corporate tax rates from 35% to 25%.
Simplify the tax code
Eliminate all tax credits and tax deductions
Create 3 brackets of 8%, 14%, and 23%
Eliminate the AMT
Eliminate the tax on capital gains and dividends
Lower corporate rates from 35% to 25%
On health care:
During the 2012 campaign, Governor Huntsman has stated that he would repeal Obamacare, and that he would block grant Medicare funds to the states.
So he is in favor of lowering tax rates on all and corporate tax rates is pro life, supports the ryan plan. Seems if that is the case you should not have a problem with Romney
As an Independent. I would love to have the chance to vote for Jon Huntsman in the 2016 Presidential election. I don't know if he will run, but if he does and he gets the nomination then I will certainly vote for him.
Well, first he'll have to beat Hillary Clinton for the Democrat nomination. Then the two of them can fight with each other over which one thought Obama was more remarkable.
You don't mean as a Republican, right? Maybe he can get Bloomberg to run with him.
99% of these hunstman fans have no clue about his positions. all they know is that he tried to paint himself a moderate that will work with both sides.
Do you know he supports a balanced budget amdmenment?
Did you know he is very much pro life?
Governor Huntsman is pro-life. He has stated that he supports restriction on abortion except in the cases of rape or incest. In a 2011 speech, he urged the Republican party not to abandon it's focus on abortion by stating that Republicans should not focus on economic life at the cost of human life. He stated that while in office, he signed every piece of pro-life legislation that came across his desk. He has stated that he supports a right to life amendment.
There were three main pieces of legislation dealing with abortion that Jon Huntsman signed into law. These bills were HB 85 in 2006 and HB 90 and HB 222 in 2009. HB 85 required that a minor obtain parental consent prior to getting an abortion. There were exceptions given for the health of the mother and familial concerns. HB 90 makes it illegal to perform an abortion in the second trimester and made it a second degree felony for the physicians to perform such a procedure. There was no punishment for the mother of the fetus. HB 222 dealt with the pain that a child may feel during an abortion. It allowed the mother time to consider medication to ensure that the fetus did not feel pain after informing them that such a thing was a possibility.
Did you know he supports the Ryan Budget?
Governor Huntsman supported the Paul Ryan plan to address the budget deficit, Social Security, and Medicare. In May of 2011, Governor Huntsman wrote an op-ed supporting the plan. He stated that he admired Congressman Ryan's plan to save Medicare and that those who were opposed to the plan had a moral imperative to propose an alternative. He reasserted his support for the plan numerous times throughout the campaign
DID you know on taxes ?
Governor Huntsman has introduced an economic plan called the "Time to Compete" plan as part of his 2012 Presidential campaign. Tax reform is one of the major components of that plan and Governor Huntsman claims that his plan is revenue neutral. The plan consists of removing all incentives and deductions, creating three new brackets of 8%, 14%, and 23%, and lowering the corporate tax rates from 35% to 25%.
Simplify the tax code
Eliminate all tax credits and tax deductions
Create 3 brackets of 8%, 14%, and 23%
Eliminate the AMT
Eliminate the tax on capital gains and dividends
Lower corporate rates from 35% to 25%
On health care:
During the 2012 campaign, Governor Huntsman has stated that he would repeal Obamacare, and that he would block grant Medicare funds to the states.
So he is in favor of lowering tax rates on all and corporate tax rates is pro life, supports the ryan plan. Seems if that is the case you should not have a problem with Romney
If you had read the thread, you would know why I support Huntsman...he is not a neocon...Romney is. That is it. The better question is why did you not vote for Huntsman in the primaries.?
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