I Hope Whoever Wins Loses Ohio

[bobtn]

Originally Posted by Francois

Presuming you mean Obama, Ohio certainly would be a blow, but there are several likely scenarios that don't have him carrying the Buckeye State. Almost no likely outcomes lead to a Romney victory without Ohio, because the states he would need to pick up instead are more Blue than Ohio so if he lost OH, he would most likely lose them by more.

True. I would bet that Wisconsin will have the same margin as Ohio plus an add'l 2-3 points in Obama's favor. So if Mitt wins Ohio by1, I'd expect him to lose Wi by 1 or 2. If Mitt loses Ohio by say 4, I'd expect WI to be Obama by 6-7.

Ohio is the election for Mitt. While it does not make him a lock, it makes him a favorite, and losing it locks him out.

No Repub has won the nation w/o Ohio for over 150 years.

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by Electric Blue

Tired of it's outsized role in deciding national elections. That is why we are forced to hear all the protectionist bullcrap which neither candidate believes. Florida is a better "decider"or Colorado,states where people move to,not away from.

Ohio doesn't DECIDE the election any more than any other state. It just happens to be one of the states with a lot of electoral votes where polls indicate the election could be close because the make-up of the state is pretty much traditionally evenly split between Red and Blue voters. California and Texas play an even BIGGER role in "deciding" which side gets a huge chunk of electoral votes - it's just that there's not a lot of suspense as to which side will get those block of votes.

If the election was expected to be close in either of those states than THEY could be deemed the state that "decides" the election (and that statement would be just as inaccurate as the one's being made about Ohio).

In the final analysis, Texas voters and California voters matter just as much as those in Ohio- it's just that we already have good idea of where they stand. Ohio isn't really going to decide "who wins", it's merely going to provide the suspense about "who wins".


Ken

[buzzards27]

Originally Posted by LordBalfor

Ohio doesn't DECIDE the election any more than any other state. It just happens to be one of the states with a lot of electoral votes where polls indicate the election could be close because the make-up of the state is pretty much traditionally evenly split between Red and Blue voters. California and Texas play an even BIGGER role in "deciding" which side gets a huge chunk of electoral votes - it's just that there's not a lot of suspense as to which side will get those block of votes.

If the election was expected to be close in either of those states than THEY could be deemed the state that "decides" the election (and that statement would be just as inaccurate as the one's being made about Ohio).

In the final analysis, Texas voters and California voters matter just as much as those in Ohio- it's just that we already have good idea of where they stand. Ohio isn't really going to decide "who wins", it's merely going to provide the suspense about "who wins".


Ken

Ken, we'd gladly ship all the ads to you in wash. you cannot understand how tired we of of this ad blitz we suffer thru every four years.