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Old 11-04-2012, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Bush made plenty of huge mistakes including attacking Iraq when they had no part in the 911 attacks and staying in Afhgan much longer than nexessary (which Obama has extended btw). He did have to deal with a serious attack that Obama fortunately did not have to deal with. Nevertheless, there's no excuse for Trillion dollar debts....and that's what Obama gives you every time....which will lead to our financial collapse far worse than that bail out of Wall Street and the banks that Obama sanctioned to gove billions to his rich friends.
LMAO!

Two unfunded wars, two unfunded tax cuts, a massive unfunded entitlement program (Medicare Part D - that he lied to the American public about the cost of), and you think that's fiscally responsible?

Let's see ...

Bush: $700 Billion TARP — crickets.
Obama: $800 Billion stimulus — unbridled outrage.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Damning evidence from CBPP lays responsibility for budget deficit on Republicans - San Antonio Economic Policy | Examiner.com
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:16 PM
 
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I like the all caps finish. Like the two of them inherited comparable economies and revenue situations. Give me a break.

The only thing I get from the graphs are the public sector jobs can lower unemployment. I have read here that they are not "real jobs" and hiring public employees is socialism. By that yardstick, Bush was far more socialist than Obama.
Economies are like rubber bands, when they get devistated, they should come roaring back. Its no coincidence the economy isnt moving..

Krogers announced they will be joining other companies that will be slashing full time employees because of Obamacare

But you celebrate policies making people poor..
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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Bush: $700 Billion TARP — crickets.
Obama: $800 Billion stimulus — unbridled outrage.
TARP was RETURNED to the taxpayer, WITH A PROFIT, (and was actually used to artificially lower Obamas deficits by $700B)
Stimulus bill, went to increasea poverty..

And you think we should celebrate more poverty.. Sorry, I wont be joining that party..
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:32 PM
 
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Economies are like rubber bands, when they get devistated, they should come roaring back. Its no coincidence the economy isnt moving..

Krogers announced they will be joining other companies that will be slashing full time employees because of Obamacare

But you celebrate policies making people poor..
You cite a company that has NEVER done well by their employees. Kroeger going out of business would be a good thing. Someone will take there place and chances are will be better for the american worker.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Wow, so Bush hired hundreds of thousands of people, and his deficits were still 1/5th of what Obamas are..

OBAMA FAILURE!!!!
No, if you knew what you were talking about then you'd know Bush kept all the sublimental bills (like the ~$250 billion per year Defense supplimental bill to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan) off the official books just like he kept an average of $150 billion in "emergency appropriations of the book. That's $400 billion in off the book spending which was spent but which was never part of Bush's official budget. Obama moved that to the official budget so that's a healthy chunch of the difference right there. The rest is pretty much due to the drop in revenue from the bubble popping. Spending wise Obama has gotten the smallest spending increases of any President post WW2. That's just a fact.

Reality, you might not like it but it is still real and it is still there.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:26 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Bush had it easy. He was given a surplus and completely dropped the ball. His was a shameful existence of 8 horrific years. Total failure both foreign and domestic. He had the greatest hindsight of any previous president and still decimated the hell out of this country with his stupid Republican policies. He also didn't have to follow HIMSELF when he took office. Any positives in his first term were the result of CLINTON residual impact.

Bush also didn't have to worry about spending becuse no Republican was complaining as he was on his military spending spree trying to nation-build abroad. He didn't have to worry about running up the deficit because no Republican was complaining about the skyrocketing deficit when he was in office. He didn't have to worry about about being opposed simply because of the color of his skin. That village idiot had it easy, yet had this country bleeding to death.

President Obama followed the worst president in history in Dubya. His first term has been cursed by Bush residual stench. He was given the worst mess in history courtesy of the Republicans and Bush. Record deficit. 2 disastrous and mismanaged wars. Bin Laden free. Failure across the board both domestic and foreign. A new Depression imminent. Rich got richer, and were fat, dumb, and happy. Jobs outsourced. Banks out of control. Housing crisis. Illegal immigration crisis. Health care crisis. He was also cursed with the most ignorant Republican representation in Congress, intent solely on opposing his every decision, even if it hurt the country. President Obama has been opposed like no president in history because he's black. With such historic opposition, we should be in a Depression. But we're not. He is successfully resuscitating this country from the Dubya Dark Ages.

These two Presidents can't be compared. President Obama is far, far superior to Bush in every way.

Enjoy President Obama's second term.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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LMAO!

Two unfunded wars, two unfunded tax cuts, a massive unfunded entitlement program (Medicare Part D - that he lied to the American public about the cost of), and you think that's fiscally responsible?

Let's see ...

Bush: $700 Billion TARP — crickets.
Obama: $800 Billion stimulus — unbridled outrage.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Damning evidence from CBPP lays responsibility for budget deficit on Republicans - San Antonio Economic Policy | Examiner.com
So you think $250 Billion average debt per year is worse than $1.25 Tillion per year?LOL

As I said, Bush was awful and gets a C-. but 5 times worse than a C- is system failure...and that's Obama's legacy....taking us to the fiscal cliff. If he's reelected, we're jumping off the cliff without a parachute.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:46 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Bush had it easy. He was given a surplus and completely dropped the ball. His was a shameful existence of 8 horrific years. Total failure both foreign and domestic. He had the greatest hindsight of any previous president and still decimated the hell out of this country with his stupid Republican policies. He also didn't have to follow HIMSELF when he took office. Any positives in his first term were the result of CLINTON residual impact.

Bush also didn't have to worry about spending becuse no Republican was complaining as he was on his military spending spree trying to nation-build abroad. He didn't have to worry about running up the deficit because no Republican was complaining about the skyrocketing deficit when he was in office. He didn't have to worry about about being opposed simply because of the color of his skin. That village idiot had it easy, yet had this country bleeding to death.

President Obama followed the worst president in history in Dubya. His first term has been cursed by Bush residual stench. He was given the worst mess in history courtesy of the Republicans and Bush. Record deficit. 2 disastrous and mismanaged wars. Bin Laden free. Failure across the board both domestic and foreign. A new Depression imminent. Rich got richer, and were fat, dumb, and happy. Jobs outsourced. Banks out of control. Housing crisis. Illegal immigration crisis. Health care crisis. He was also cursed with the most ignorant Republican representation in Congress, intent solely on opposing his every decision, even if it hurt the country. President Obama has been opposed like no president in history because he's black. With such historic opposition, we should be in a Depression. But we're not. He is successfully resuscitating this country from the Dubya Dark Ages.

These two Presidents can't be compared. President Obama is far, far superior to Bush in every way.

Enjoy President Obama's second term.
Can I make you down in Votebuilder as a 1, a STRONG OBAMA? LOL.

You make a strong case for Obama and a dem house.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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So you think $250 Billion average debt per year is worse than $1.25 Tillion per year?LOL

As I said, Bush was awful and gets a C-. but 5 times worse than a C- is system failure...and that's Obama's legacy....taking us to the fiscal cliff. If he's reelected, we're jumping off the cliff without a parachute.
I think you should look closely inside that trillion dollar deficit to see why it is so big. Two of Bush's wars, Medicare Part D, a huge drop in tax revenue caused by Bush's tax cuts, an even bigger drop in tax revenue caused by Bush's GREAT RECESSION, the stimulus needed because of Bush's GREAT RECESSION, and on and on...

FYI, you might take some remedial math courses ASAP. I don't even need to look it up to know the $250 billion average for Bush figure of yours is way off. FY 2002 to FY 2009 dude.

THERE, I looked it up for you, deficits added to TOTAL national debt. Bush’s budgets caused deficits AVERAGING $763,000,000,000 a year (2001 thru 2009).
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:34 AM
 
Location: right here
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LMAO!

Two unfunded wars, two unfunded tax cuts, a massive unfunded entitlement program (Medicare Part D - that he lied to the American public about the cost of), and you think that's fiscally responsible?

Let's see ...

Bush: $700 Billion TARP — crickets.
Obama: $800 Billion stimulus — unbridled outrage.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Damning evidence from CBPP lays responsibility for budget deficit on Republicans - San Antonio Economic Policy | Examiner.com

Tarp was returned to the taxpayer with a profit....crickets....

Hypocrisy at it's finest...
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