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Old 11-05-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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This has to be one of the most truthful explanations of our position in this system that I have ever read; especially considering it comes from someone who is an admitted liberal. Please Read, and comment.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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Read it...

Can I go vote now?
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Can I go vote now?
Best comment you could muster?
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Tysons Corner, VA by way of TEXAS
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Interesting. I agree with this to an extent. Republicans and Democrats are increasingly two sides of the same coin.

Only when we have a viable third party in this country can we stop this madness.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Had the Republicans been able to muster a "moderate" candidate, the only reason I would have seriously looked at that candidate is President Obama's actions with regard to constitutional rights. They didn't. Obama's got my vote again.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Can I go vote now?
You have now decided to vote for Romney, correct?
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Too late.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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Read it.

Understood it.

The question is, did the OP?

This is not a condemnation of Obama. This condemns both Romney and Obama. It is a citation-heavy opin piece that basically says that you and I and the general population of the United States lack the intelligence to recognize when we are being lied to, and we are always being lied to, by the political elite. Not by the liberal elite, not by the conservative elite, but by liberal or conservative or neutral, anyone who pursues power. The author's argument is that power is pursued solely for the sake of power, that our entire leadership is corrupt because the system is corrupted. And that voting is simply an exercise of futility.

I reject his arguments. I can understand how disappointment after disappointment has led to the author's cynicism, and his jaded assessment of our political system. And I reject it. I agree with him that the American electorate has been lied to, over and over and over, by whomever is seeking power, and I agree that many Americans are oblivious to the lies. And yet, I think that whenever the lies are told, there's someone else offering up the truth. I think that most Americans want the truth, and will look for it. And I respect the fact that people will vote differently than I, not because they are stupid or deluded, but because they have a different perspective. The author believes that we are all gullible and fools. I don't share his opinion.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Frothing nutjobbery is as obnoxious from the far left fringe as it is from the far right fringe.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Had the Republicans been able to muster a "moderate" candidate, the only reason I would have seriously looked at that candidate is President Obama's actions with regard to constitutional rights. They didn't. Obama's got my vote again.
You wanted moderate, yet you're voting for 0bama?

OK, then.
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