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Old 11-06-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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But it's ultimately the same. Call me a cynic but I don't see a lot changing anytime in the near future with DC problems.
The electorate may surprise you. It's happened before...a ton of pressure can be brought to bear once we get sick of them ignoring an issue.

435 phone lines can't handle 2 or 300Million...
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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It's not the wealthy that creates jobs, either. It's mom and pop. Enjoy.
We own our own small business, but can only have a few employees because we need jobs in order to keep our staff working. Mom and pop aren't usually the ones who run coal mines, restore the infrastructure or demolish useless and empty buildings. It's clear by the posts in this thread exactly who loves America and believes that she's a great country, and exactly who sees America as a place not worth living in or helping to correct problems. Barack is laying it down just as it is...if you don't want to help the country, at least get out of the way of those who do.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Great speech by Obama. Inspirational.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Not likely.

In regards to your dogma about "...as the government cuts defense spending by billions of dollars it will lower tax rates, freeing capital to invest in other sectors, which creates jobs." - despite their slogans and lip-service about it, even GOP Congressmen and Senators don't really buy that theory. If they DID believe it they wouldn't be constantly trying to suck up all that "pork" for their home districts - thus RAISING government spending.

Ken
The GOP has purchased a few cans of Spam over the years. You guys bought the hog farm. Both are wrong.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:57 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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LOL at the Donald Trump crazy old man with a squirrel nest toupee Twitter revolution rant

Donald Trump Vs Twitter Alec Baldwin More Unload After Obama Rant | E! Online
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:59 PM
 
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Great speech from Obama
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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If I didn't believe this was such a great country I wouldn't be so passionate about the fiscal policies that are destroying it.

And I also owned a fairly large business. 76% of all jobs are provided by small businesses.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The Carl Rove meltdown will now go down in infamy.

#youtube sensation
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:02 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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The GOP has purchased a few cans of Spam over the years. You guys bought the hog farm.
Not really.

"The top earmarkers in both the House and Senate are Republicans, even after the GOP has spent much of the past year making fiscal restraint and runaway government spending the centerpiece of its political message.

Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) — both atop defense spending panels — led their respective bodies in securing earmarks, according to an analysis by the nonprofit Taxpayers for Common Sense..."


Republicans lead earmark list - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

Ken
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Not really.

"The top earmarkers in both the House and Senate are Republicans, even after the GOP has spent much of the past year making fiscal restraint and runaway government spending the centerpiece of its political message.

Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) and Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) — both atop defense spending panels — led their respective bodies in securing earmarks, according to an analysis by the nonprofit Taxpayers for Common Sense..."


Republicans lead earmark list - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

Ken
Amateurs compared to Kennedy. Shall I go on? And as I noted - it's wrong for either party.
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