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Old 11-07-2012, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by Dayton Sux View Post
I guess Im a little shocked at Maine passing gay marriage. From what I saw of that state (Lewiston, Auburn, and Portland) it's pretty redneck, Yankee style (Yankneck?), once you get outside of the old part of Portland..

I dont see the US as going liberal, really. Depends on where you are at though...
Mainers - the original libertarians.

 
Old 11-07-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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Yes from slavery genocide discrimination to equal rights and clear thinking. We've came so far. Maybe that liberty and justice for all thing will finally kick in
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:34 PM
 
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You need to learn a new word, because you've worn-out "liberal."
How did I wear out a word I used twice? Am I missing something?
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:47 PM
 
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These are state issues, if we were to make same-sex marriage a nationwide vote, then I am sure voters would turn it down. A few states approving these things doesn't speak for the whole country.
Most of this country also opposed interracial marriage and rights for women. I have no respect for Americans as a population. The majority are very poorly educated. The trend, however, is clear that the lunatic right wingers and ignorant side are losing ground.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:49 PM
 
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Christianity will be banned. Liberals today say that's tinfoil stuff, but I promise you, check back in 30 years and Christianity will be either completely illegal or driven underground.

Meanwhile, every city will have a "sex forum" like the ancient Greeks did, a place in town where everybody can go have free public sex with whomever they want, even children, no laws whatsoever.
I find your persecution complex entirely disgusting and unChristian. I'm part of the 2 most persecuted minorities on Earth, and you're part of the majority in the most religious 1st World country on the planet.

Get over your freakin self and have some respect for those who have truly faced persecution.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 10:59 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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Don't forget WA state legalized same sex marriage and legalized recreational use of the herb.

Begin conservative angst. Go ahead and be more hard assed. See how well you get shellacked in the next election.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Can't wait until the Repubs lose the House again in 2014. I would like to see Single-payer soon enough too. DOMA is history as well. The right's grip on power is loosening.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Scandinavia, Germany, Switzerland, etc. are doing quite well.
They don't know the difference between European countries. They think Spain and Portugal are the same as Sweden and Norway. Remember, the Republican Party is the party of Sarah Palin. They're not the brightest bunch.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Christianity will be banned. Liberals today say that's tinfoil stuff, but I promise you, check back in 30 years and Christianity will be either completely illegal or driven underground.

Meanwhile, every city will have a "sex forum" like the ancient Greeks did, a place in town where everybody can go have free public sex with whomever they want, even children, no laws whatsoever.
Amazing. Republicans lost big time last night and yet they still are foaming at the mouth and spewing stupid comments.

Newsflash: one of the reasons you lost is because you sound like a bunch of fools.
 
Old 11-07-2012, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Me too. Founding fathers probably flipping over in their graves.

Oh well guess more of money goes to handout generation.
"The Remissness of our People in Paying Taxes is highly blameable; the Unwillingness to pay them is still more so. I see, in some Resolutions of Town Meetings, a Remonstrance against giving Congress a Power to take, as they call it, the People's Money out of their Pockets, tho' only to pay the Interest and Principal of Debts duly contracted. They seem to mistake the Point. Money, justly due from the People, is their Creditors' Money, and no longer the Money of the People, who, if they withold it, should be compell'd to pay by some Law. ...

"All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it."
~Benjamin Franklin, The Founders Constitution, Volume 1, Chapter 16, Document 12


"Government is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity and happiness of the people; and not for the profit, honor, or private interest of any one man, family, or class of men: Therefore the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter, or totally change the same, when their protection, safety, prosperity and happiness require it." ~ John Adams, The Federalist Papers
Those blasted Founding Fathers buncha Socialists! Shoulda stayed in Europe where they came from.
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These are state issues, if we were to make same-sex marriage a nationwide vote, then I am sure voters would turn it down. A few states approving these things doesn't speak for the whole country.
You'd be sure, but you'd be wrong.
Polls in 2012

A June 6 CNN/ORC International poll showed that a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage being legalized at 54%, while 42% are opposed.
A May 22 NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll showed that 54% of Americans would support a law in their state making same-sex marriage legal, with 40% opposed.
A May 1720 ABC News/Washington Post poll showed that 53% believe same-sex marriage should be legal, with only 39% opposed, a low point for opposition in any national poll so far.
A May 10 USA Today/Gallup Poll, taken one day after Barack Obama became the first sitting President to express support for same-sex marriage, showed 51% of Americans agreed with the President's endorsement, while 45% disagreed. A May 8 Gallup Poll showed plurality support for same-sex marriage nationwide, with 50% in favor and 48% opposed.
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Proving the point, perfectly. True freedom doesn't exist anymore for liberals. It seems that you are only free to practice what THEY preach.
This is what freedom looks like. Our secular government should not be dictated by a book of ancient fairy tales.
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