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The youth vote and gay marriage was a huge factor but another factor is that Romney was simply the "not Obama" candidate. Obama supporters were energized in support of their candidate, while Romney supporters were simply voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush was the last Republican to run that voters were excited about and he won. If the GOP wants to win in 2016, a good place to start is nominating someone the base is enthusiastic about and also can appeal to the center.
The youth vote and gay marriage was a huge factor but another factor is that Romney was simply the "not Obama" candidate. Obama supporters were energized in support of their candidate, while Romney supporters were simply voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush was the last Republican to run that voters were excited about and he won. If the GOP wants to win in 2016, a good place to start is nominating someone the base is enthusiastic about and also can appeal to the center.
The Republican partyy has no one but themselves to blame. They allowed radicals to infiltrate and hijack the party. None of the leaders of the party stood up to these nuts and their candidiate showed no backbone and never even once refuted anything they said. In fact, Romney chose one of these ideological idiots to share the ticket with him. They lost and they got what they deserved. Even McCain stood up to woman that was accusing Obama of being a Muslim terrorist. Romney embraced the birthers...nuff said.
The youth vote and gay marriage was a huge factor but another factor is that Romney was simply the "not Obama" candidate. Obama supporters were energized in support of their candidate, while Romney supporters were simply voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush was the last Republican to run that voters were excited about and he won. If the GOP wants to win in 2016, a good place to start is nominating someone the base is enthusiastic about and also can appeal to the center.
People were "excited" about Bush? Everything is relative I guess.
The youth vote and gay marriage was a huge factor but another factor is that Romney was simply the "not Obama" candidate. Obama supporters were energized in support of their candidate, while Romney supporters were simply voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush was the last Republican to run that voters were excited about and he won. If the GOP wants to win in 2016, a good place to start is nominating someone the base is enthusiastic about and also can appeal to the center.
I disagree. Many people were very energized and excited by Romney. For me it wasn't a case of "not Obama" or "lesser of two evils," I do not support Obama, but I genuinely had faith in Romney. Complete confidence. It's a shame we won't get to see what he's capable of. Now in 2008, I would've concerned McCain the lesser of two evils in the sense that he didn't energize me. But he was the better choice because Obama had no experience/nothing to show. Oh, whattaya know. He's still got nothing to show. Some things never change
The main reason Romney lost was this... He is a self centered, pompous Ass that can't see beyond his own bank account. He's a mulit-millionarie that has no grasp on reality.
He can't speak to middle income America or understand what the average family is facing. With earning in the 13 million dollar range, One yrs interest on his yearly income is more than most families will make in 10 yrs. This is not a man that is in anyway connected with the realities of middle income people. He stands in front of the cameras telling the world how much he cares and will fight for the average family. Then gets in a room full of his millionaire friends and we get to hear the truth..
He doesn't care about you, me or anyone else that isn't part of his millionaire boys club.. Be thankful we dodged the bullet...
I have done very well for myself over the past few yrs and I work with some very wealthy people that would benefit heavily from tax cuts for the rich and even they could see how disconnected this guy is and wouldn't vote for him..
Maybe Obama isn't the best choice but he's a hell of a lot better than the other option.
The youth vote and gay marriage was a huge factor but another factor is that Romney was simply the "not Obama" candidate. Obama supporters were energized in support of their candidate, while Romney supporters were simply voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush was the last Republican to run that voters were excited about and he won. If the GOP wants to win in 2016, a good place to start is nominating someone the base is enthusiastic about and also can appeal to the center.
I think you are right: what we really need is a personality that is appealing to many. I hate to think people vote this way, but they do and I probably do as well. yes, the youth makes some difference, but Obama got a lot snaller % of the youth vote this time and I am willing to bet,a lot fewer youth voted. As for social issues, like gay rights, Republicans do need to example their views without selling their principles..We have to stay true to our beliefs and not spin to the middle. That would be a disaster. Gay rights though must be addressed. I don't totally agree about the center though. If we do go too far, we might as well have just 1 big party. I think we have to find a way to attract more minorities and probably young women. I can think of several young Republicans that could energize the party, but it is too soon to get to excited: first on my mind is: Rubio and Suzanna Martinez for starters. More than anything we have to get over this: it is so and so turn. We did it with Bush 1 which worked; we did it with Dole, McCain and then Romney. Since when is the nominee should be in line....??
The main reason Romney lost was this... He is a self centered, pompous Ass that can't see beyond his own bank account. He's a mulit-millionarie that has no grasp on reality.
He can't speak to middle income America or understand what the average family is facing. With earning in the 13 million dollar range, One yrs interest on his yearly income is more than most families will make in 10 yrs. This is not a man that is in anyway connected with the realities of middle income people. He stands in front of the cameras telling the world how much he cares and will fight for the average family. Then gets in a room full of his millionaire friends and we get to hear the truth..
He doesn't care about you, me or anyone else that isn't part of his millionaire boys club.. Be thankful we dodged the bullet...
I have done very well for myself over the past few yrs and I work with some very wealthy people that would benefit heavily from tax cuts for the rich and even they could see how disconnected this guy is and wouldn't vote for him..
Maybe Obama isn't the best choice but he's a hell of a lot better than the other option.
Where is the data that Obama is beneficial for the country?
Are jobs being created? Is the deficit going down? Have entitlements been reformed (or even a legitimate proposal been mad)? Was he honest regarding the Benghazi attack? How have his increased regulations benefited the economy? How will his tax hikes (direct and indirect, as in through Obamacare) help the economy? Is the currency strengthening? Are interest rates up? Has the housing market strengthened?
I'd be curious to hear the case as to how bigger government, more regulations, higher taxes, Obamacare, cap-and-trade, more powerful unions and other policies that Obama supports are good for the country.
There's no doubt that the country will be worse off 4 years from now than it is today, but people won't make the link between Obama's policy and that decline. They haven't linked the decline of California to these policies, as the (D) party wins by bigger and bigger margins the further and further the state declines.
The youth vote and gay marriage was a huge factor but another factor is that Romney was simply the "not Obama" candidate. Obama supporters were energized in support of their candidate, while Romney supporters were simply voting for the lesser of two evils. Bush was the last Republican to run that voters were excited about and he won. If the GOP wants to win in 2016, a good place to start is nominating someone the base is enthusiastic about and also can appeal to the center.
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Where is the data that Obama is beneficial for the country?
Are jobs being created? Is the deficit going down? Have entitlements been reformed (or even a legitimate proposal been mad)? Was he honest regarding the Benghazi attack? How have his increased regulations benefited the economy? How will his tax hikes (direct and indirect, as in through Obamacare) help the economy? Is the currency strengthening? Are interest rates up? Has the housing market strengthened?
I'd be curious to hear the case as to how bigger government, more regulations, higher taxes, Obamacare, cap-and-trade, more powerful unions and other policies that Obama supports are good for the country.
There's no doubt that the country will be worse off 4 years from now than it is today, but people won't make the link between Obama's policy and that decline. They haven't linked the decline of California to these policies, as the (D) party wins by bigger and bigger margins the further and further the state declines.
I dunno. Maybe there's a chart or something on the internets.
Still looking
Guess you're right. Man, this dude sucks.
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