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Old 04-19-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Really? I thought it makes every bit as much sense as the rest of the posts, and probably has more truisms,as well. One thing for sure their candidates are always worth a good laugh!

Wanna wager how RELIGIOUS/CHRISTIAN,or how OLD their next candidate will be?
Another atheist ideologue making insane predictions and then following them up with equally senseless reasoning.
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Old 04-19-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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You are obviously too young to remember the Reagan presidency. Look up trickle down economics. Reagan tripled the national debt. He raised the debt ceiling 17 times. He expanded the size of government. As a Conservative, you would never vote for him today.

He will not be remembered as a great anything except by Republicans who routinely rewrite history to their advantage. Who you think you know as President Reagan, the saint of the right wingers, is largely a myth.
Well then it seems we have 2 point of views on this topic and for the success of Reagan there will be folk who want to believe what they want to.

There was a reason Mondale was blown out to the Water!
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Old 04-19-2014, 07:56 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Support appears to be gaining for Hillary Clinton to succeed the great President Obama as President of the United States in 2016. She would be the first WOMAN to hold that position, a result of the CHANGE that President Obama represents. Should would get even more support than President Obama did in this last election, completely obliterating the GOP opposition. The GOP will again waste a FORTUNE in the losing effort. Imagine her having Colin Powell as her running mate. How about an Latino as her running mate, or an Asian? Maybe she would pick someone who is of mixed-race and GAY? Any combination dooms the hapless GOP. There isn't a GOP candidate alive who could compete.

Former top Obama aides join pro-Hillary effort - First Read
Why not the best candidate period, without having to put a label on it?
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Old 04-19-2014, 08:02 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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You are obviously too young to remember the Reagan presidency. Look up trickle down economics. Reagan tripled the national debt. He raised the debt ceiling 17 times. He expanded the size of government. As a Conservative, you would never vote for him today.

He will not be remembered as a great anything except by Republicans who routinely rewrite history to their advantage. Who you think you know as President Reagan, the saint of the right wingers, is largely a myth.
His was one of the greatest economic boons in history! Look up YUPPIE (young upwardly mobile professionals) for the proof that trickle down works. His policies crushed the USSR, and repaired the damage that Carter inflicted on us.

You must be too delusional to remember just how good his second term was.

As for the debt ceiling, it was his bargain with the DNC that raised the debt ceiling so they could spend, spend, spend. That is the way the DNC has operated for fifty years; Tax and spend, tax and spend.

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Imagine her having Colin Powell as her running mate. How about an Latino as her running mate, or an Asian? Maybe she would pick someone who is of mixed-race and GAY?
Look how well voting in a guy because his skin is black has worked out. Don't you think it's time for all sides to actually put forth competent candidates? The fact that you'd still vote based on sexual preference and skin colors says a lot about your decision making skills.

Hillary has proven herself utterly useless when it comes to management and decision making. She shut the door on her shoe in when she had that meltdown over Benghazi. The fact that four heroes died needlessly with her in charge... well, it does matter!

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Old 04-19-2014, 11:07 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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I do not know what you were doing, but it was a good time and finically growth period for my family. During Carter inflation was out of control home rates were untouchable and we had double digit unemployment from the Man from Plains Georgia,

The Iran Contra thing played out and those involves were punished. That being said, to have strong foreign policy one must break a few eggs and will to put yourself out there. That's leadership.

No matter who is President is, these kind of operation go on all the time for the sake of National Defense or US Interest. Some must do the dirty work. We do live in the world where not everybody plays by the same rules.
Regardless to popular believe, the office of President is more than shooting hoops or playing golf with Tiger.

I guess we were in alternate universes and there was something you missed! For the record I am glad you will not respond, its a waste of time.
You crack me up the way you speak out of both sides of your mouth. First you complain about Hillary and the Bengazi operation THEN you turn around and say "No matter who is President is, these kind of operation go on all the time for the sake of National Defense or US Interest. Some must do the dirty work. We do live in the world where not everybody plays by the same rules". Make up your mind. Either you support covert ops or you don't. Bengazi was a covert op that went bad - sometimes that happens, it's a dangerous and risky business.

Regarding the rest of your "facts" - they are just plain WRONG. We did NOT have "double digit unemployment" during the Carter years. The highest it hit under Carter was 7.8% in July of 1980. The double digit UE rate you mention didn't come about until Reagan had been in office for over a YEAR AND HALF, when in Sept of 1982 the UE rate climbed to over 10%. Though Reagan ENDED with a very low UE rate, for his first 6 years it rarely dropped below 7% and for his first 5 years it NEVER dropped below 7%.

Unemployment Rate - US | Portal Seven

It IS true that inflation was high under Carter (as it was during the first 2 years and (to a lesser extent) the last 18 months or so of the Reagan years, but the really high UE rates were purely a "Reagan years" thing rather than a "Carter years" thing.

Historical Inflation Rates: 1914-2014, Annual and Monthly Tables - US Inflation Calculator

Though the Reagan years ENDED pretty well, for most of his 2 terms the economy was not really very good - and whether you want to admit it or not, it's the same pattern Obama is tracing - with a booming stock market but struggling UE rate throughout most of their 2 terms - and like Reagan, Obama will likely finish his 2nd term with a UE rate pretty low.

Ken

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Old 04-19-2014, 11:14 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Let's just leave it at: I know a heck of a lot more about Reagan than you could ever know from what you read. Yes, Nancy did consult with Joan Quigley and yes, on a regular basis. End of story. There is no way I will ever convince you the rest of what you think you know is 75% not true. So I guess, we will have to leave it at that.
LOL
"Let's leave it at that" - in other words, you don't like what the RECORDED FACTS say, what his OWN STAFF SAID, etc, etc, etc - so "let's just ignore all that and simply accept that nmnita says it's 'all untrue".
YEAH, RIGHT!!!!!

How the hell did YOU get $500?


Ken
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Anytime someone capitalizes key words in a post for emphasis, it is a sure tell that said someone is a troll or a dumbass.
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:27 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Anytime someone capitalizes key words in a post for emphasis, it is a sure tell that said someone is a troll or a dumbass.
Where'd you get those "words of wisdom" - a fortune cookie?


Ken
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Where'd you get those "words of wisdom" - a fortune cookie?


Ken
Brilliant post. Almost worth the time it took to type it. Did you snort with satisfaction as you masterfully stroked the keys?
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Old 04-19-2014, 11:32 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Brilliant post. Almost worth the time it took to type it. Did you snort with satisfaction as you masterfully stroked the keys?
At least as much as you did.

Ken
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