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Old 06-17-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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The commentary were my opinions, the poll numbers were not. Sorry, it's not looking good for Clinton.
Clinton has already sabotaged herself beyond hope of repair, first claiming to be "dead broke" when they left the WH in 2001 when in reality she had an $8 million book advance before then, and then claiming to support an estate tax while doing everything in her power to avoid her family having to pay it upon her and Bill's deaths.

Hillary Clinton Book Advance, $8 Million, Is Near Record - NYTimes.com

Wealthy Clintons Use Trusts to Limit Estate Tax They Supposedly Support - Bloomberg

Hillary's one of the most blatant hypocrites I've ever seen.
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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In which polls is it not looking good? Certainly none of these:

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Presidential Race

Also, you know who else won a Republican straw poll? Michele Bachmann. How's she doing these days? Still preaching the dangers of vaccines?
Oh, but like Nate Silver, rcp just publishes polls that predict accurately. The radical right prefers their dogmatic beliefs to reality any day of the week. How'd that work out for them in 2012?
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Old 06-17-2014, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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Oh, but like Nate Silver, rcp just publishes polls that predict accurately. The radical right prefers their dogmatic beliefs to reality any day of the week. How'd that work out for them in 2012?
Did you see the recent Hillary interview? Man Hillary was not convincing or smooth and lied about stupid stuff like the Clinton's were dead broke when Bill left the WF. I actually don't think she'll win the Dem nomination but hope she does.

These early polls don't mean much beyond bragging rights. I do agree the Repubs need a good persuasive candidate but they are searching for one...if they get one, no way Hillary wins, no way she can pull it off without any real political sills.
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Old 06-17-2014, 03:46 PM
 
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These early polls don't mean much beyond bragging rights. I do agree the Repubs need a good persuasive candidate but they are searching for one...if they get one, no way Hillary wins, no way she can pull it off without any real political sills.
The GOP cannot beat Hillary as of now. They can't break any portion of the Blue Wall. Add in Va & NM, now demographically blue, and it will take the GOP nominee of the last 50 years to have any shot at all.

RCP aggregates all credible polls, and HC is leading in all of them, against all comers. She has a long history in the party, and in any year except 2008 vs an incredible opponent (Obama), she wins the nomination in a walk, and the Blue Wall adores her.

The GOP needs to regroup, and not use up, wastefully, good nominees until it corrects its Latino/single women issues. JM & MR were not the problem, party positions are not aligned with 21st century, densely populated America, and those densely populated states decide the POTUS.
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Old 06-17-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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The commentary were my opinions, the poll numbers were not. Sorry, it's not looking good for Clinton.
It was looking even worse for Obama in June 2011. And yet he managed to pull out a victory. Hmmmm....

CNN Poll: Obama approval rating drops as fears of depression rise – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
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Old 06-17-2014, 03:53 PM
 
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It was looking even worse for Obama in June 2011. And yet he managed to pull out a victory. Hmmmm....
45 plus point Latino pluralities, and 35 point single women pluralities solve lots of election woes.
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Clinton can't beat Dr. Ben Carson, he's going to be the next President. Ted Cruz can beat her too, he would tear her up in the debates and make her look like a fool in front of the whole country, which she is already doing to herself.

Clinton is doing terrible in the polls. Nobody wants her aside from the Democratic Loyalists.

Poll: Hillary Clinton’s favorability lowest since 2008 - The Washington Post

Meanwhile Dr. Ben Carson (my endorsed candidate) and Ted Cruz are sky rocketing in the polls! They are exactly who America wants and more importantly, who America needs.

Ted Cruz and Ben Carson Lead Big GOP Presidential Straw Poll

All one has to do to see the future of our election is Virginia. The recent state election is foreshadowing what's going to happen come 2016. Conservatives are going to win, we are going to take this country back and restore it to it's Constitutional Roots. Dems can damage control this all they want to, it's not going to save them.
Let Carson and Cruz skyrocket. We all watched Perry, Trump, Paul, Caine, and Bachmann skyrocket too, just a couple of years ago. As I recall, none reached very high before they flamed out and crashed just as fast as they went up.
You might as well dump them and push Palin into a run. She has more consistent poll rates than either, but Hillary has had the highest popularity ratings of them all for the longest time.

Carson and Cruz are nothing more than the new flavors of the month, and we all know how that turned out in 2012. But get behind them- getting 2% of the vote is better than nothing at all.
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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Carson and Cruz are nothing more than the new flavors of the month, and we all know how that turned out in 2012. .

6-6-6 plan this time
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:13 PM
 
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Weare talking about Hillary Clinton the same one who was a shoe-in in 2008?
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:16 PM
 
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Weare talking about Hillary Clinton the same one who was a shoe-in in 2008?

Yeah, but she was defeated by a Democrat, not by a Republican. This is the age of the Democratic nomination being tougher to win than the general election (for Democrats, Republicans are pretty much screwed).
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