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Old 06-22-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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They also said George W. Bush was unelectable...

Twice.
I don't recall anyone saying Bush was unelectable. In 1999, he was considered the favorite to win the GOP nomination and run a strong race against Al Gore at a time when "Clinton fatigue" was high.
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: United States
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I don't recall anyone saying Bush was unelectable. In 1999, he was considered the favorite to win the GOP nomination and run a strong race against Al Gore at a time when "Clinton fatigue" was high.
You don't remember all of that talk by the left in 2000 about how there was no way that the country would send another Bush to the White House?

Or after the Iraq invasion how it would be impossible to re-elect W. after the intelligence failure that led to jihad in New York City and with all of the "lies to get us into this war"?
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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I can't stand how many people trash Bush about getting us into a never ending war. It seems that after the terror of September 11th 2001 the entire country was united in "Lets GO Get those %#*@&*" Including Obama.

Hillary in 2016 what a joke but you know there are so many low information voters out there that she could actually pull it off when the media and Hollywood gets behind her.
You know back in 1836 there was a battle down in Texas that didn't end so well for our guys and a phrase emerged from that defeat that helped to rally our troops and push the Mexicans back and that phrase was "Remember the Alamo".
Leading up to the 2016 elections I think we need another phrase to help rally sane rational voters and that would be "Remember Benghazi" . The way our people were left out to die and the way Hillary and Obama continued the lie about the video that started it all and the way they greeted the caskets of our fallen citizens they should be ashamed.

Of course this is all a mute point since Obama is now rigging the country to totally collapse in the near future and it will be so bad that the 22 nd amendment will be tossed out and he will grant himself a third term.
Don't laugh it could happen.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:43 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I don't recall anyone saying Bush was unelectable. In 1999, he was considered the favorite to win the GOP nomination and run a strong race against Al Gore at a time when "Clinton fatigue" was high.
Winning 44% of Latinos put W in by a whisker. Obama won via 2 slam dunks. His worst was 46 ECs better than W's best. NOVA was smaller (% of state population)-so Va was red in W's time. It is solid blue now.

Demographics are not kind to the GOP, as it struggles using an early 20th century gameplan in 21st century America.
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Old 06-22-2014, 08:03 PM
 
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Of course this is all a mute point since Obama is now rigging the country to totally collapse in the near future and it will be so bad that the 22 nd amendment will be tossed out and he will grant himself a third term.
Don't laugh it could happen.
Sorry, but I am laughing. A mute point. LOL!! Rigging the county to totally collapse. LOL!! The 22nd amendment will be tossed out. LOL!! Where do you guys come up with this crap?

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Old 06-23-2014, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Sorry, but I am laughing. A mute point. LOL!! Rigging the county to totally collapse. LOL!! The 22nd amendment will be tossed out. LOL!! Where do you guys come up with this crap?
have to agree with you: he isn't going to allow himself a third term. I am betting with all the messes we have right now, some maybe his fault, some the blame belongs elsewhere he will be glad to get out of the public eye.....
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:49 PM
 
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You don't remember all of that talk by the left in 2000 about how there was no way that the country would send another Bush to the White House?

Or after the Iraq invasion how it would be impossible to re-elect W. after the intelligence failure that led to jihad in New York City and with all of the "lies to get us into this war"?
Of course not...I was 6.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:34 PM
 
Location: United States
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Of course not...I was 6.
Well, let me tell you.

Liberals openly laughed at the idea of a "drunken, frat boy, draft dodging son of a failed one-term Reagan holdove"r actually winning the White House.

Then Bush beat Al Gore and the left had nothing to say.

Then in 2004 liberals just knew that Kerry would kick Bush's tail based on "letting 9/11 happen" and "dragging America into a stupid war".

Then Bush won again and they had nothing to say once more.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:42 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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You don't remember all of that talk by the left in 2000 about how there was no way that the country would send another Bush to the White House?
No I don't remember that at all. The left was unhappy at the prospect of another Bush presidency, but he was not dismissed as "unelectable". Here is a May 2000 article from the NY Times:

THE 2000 CAMPAIGN - PUBLIC OPINION - Poll Shows Bush Ahead of Gore, With Leadership a Crucial Issue - NYTimes.com
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:43 PM
 
Location: NJ
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No I don't remember that at all. The left was unhappy at the prospect of another Bush presidency, but he was not dismissed as "unelectable". Here is a May 2000 article from the NY Times:

THE 2000 CAMPAIGN - PUBLIC OPINION - Poll Shows Bush Ahead of Gore, With Leadership a Crucial Issue - NYTimes.com

Gore reduced the gap at the end, but trailed MOST of 2000.

In the 1980s, neither Gore nor Kerry, if either were old enough to run for POTUS, would get even the pithy EC total McCain got. The fact each got as large a share of the EC as they did, with Gore winning the popular vote, was the early warning sign of a changing nation, and not in the GOP's favor.
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