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Old 11-09-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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For folks who are constantly deriding others as living in a state of victimhood, always blaming others for their failures. Yet, you blame the media, you blame attack ads, you blame racist black people, you blame voter ignorance, you blame the polls, you blame anything and everything that you can find to blame instead of just looking into the mirror and realizing that the fault lies with you, your candidates, your policies, and your party. Isn't it about time that you practice what you preach? Get a mirror, and take a good hard look at yourselves.

 
Old 11-09-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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For folks who are constantly deriding others as living in a state of victimhood, always blaming others for their failures. Yet, you blame the media, you blame attack ads, you blame racist black people, you blame voter ignorance, you blame the polls, you blame anything and everything that you can find to blame instead of just looking into the mirror and realizing that the fault lies with you, your candidates, your policies, and your party. Isn't it about time that you practice what you preach? Get a mirror, and take a good hard look at yourselves.
Nah, here's the real reason:


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship." - Prof. Alexander Frazer Tytler
 
Old 11-09-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Houston
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If you look at the stats the only thing Republicans need to adjust is their immigration stance. The difference between the 2004 and 2012 elections was the hispanic vote. It would be smart to shut up about rape also.
 
Old 11-09-2012, 02:58 PM
 
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If you look at the stats the only thing Republicans need to adjust is their immigration stance. The difference between the 2004 and 2012 elections was the hispanic vote. It would be smart to shut up about rape also.
Based on the vitriol but out by the Republican Party it's going to take more than that to get back the Hispanic vote.

Plus the perception among the more hard-core rabid conservatives is that Hispanics have too much damn power anyway. You are going to have a helluva hard time getting congressional Republicans to vote for immigration reform. The only ones that might do so probably live in areas where the Hispanic voting population could cause them to lose an election.


The GOP is now between a rock and hard place. Those that live in areas with large Hispanic voting populations where this is an issue will put pressure on them to support immigration reform while their base will pressure them not to.
 
Old 11-09-2012, 03:00 PM
 
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Its time for Democrats to realise nothig has changed since mid-term. this is the winnig both houses of congree and the presidency like 2008. Voers took that away.Everyone who voted has a right to representation of why they votew for their representation. Nomandte for any change given to wither party since mid=terms when voters too house away from democratic control.
 
Old 11-09-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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Its time for Democrats to realise nothig has changed since mid-term. this is the winnig both houses of congree and the presidency like 2008.
Not really. Start creating congressional seats for either party that aren't built in safe havens and we can talk, take the Senate for example when legislators have to run in state wide elections.

But you are right one thing is the same in 2012 that was true in 2008, the Republicans lost another national election.

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Old 11-09-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Its always about policy. The republican party has lost its way and is a big government party. It starts and ends with policy. The best changes are at the local level.
 
Old 11-09-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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at least you admitted there are racist black people.....that's a start.
 
Old 11-09-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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at least you admitted there are racist black people.....that's a start.

Unfortunately far out numbered by number of racist white people.
 
Old 11-09-2012, 05:02 PM
 
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For folks who are constantly deriding others as living in a state of victimhood, always blaming others for their failures. Yet, you blame the media, you blame attack ads, you blame racist black people, you blame voter ignorance, you blame the polls, you blame anything and everything that you can find to blame instead of just looking into the mirror and realizing that the fault lies with you, your candidates, your policies, and your party. Isn't it about time that you practice what you preach? Get a mirror, and take a good hard look at yourselves.
Is that the wildest thing ever? All these years, they've been claiming that it's everyone else, and everyone believed them.
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