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Old 01-06-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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Me too and I thought Mia was awesome. I'm sorry she didn't win, but I hope she will be back. We need more like her.

Why do you believe the Libertarians caused her to lose?
Because it was such a close vote. Had the Libertarians voted for Love, she would have won.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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So what are the right wingers crying about then with this nonsense about "libertarians" sinking her candidacy? Sounds to me like she never stood a chance.
The Libertarian candidate, Jim Vein got 6,439 votes, but since Matheson just beat Love by 768 votes, she could easily have won had the Libertarian vote gone her way.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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Because it was such a close vote. Had the Libertarians voted for Love, she would have won.
That's pretty far fetched.

Had the democrats voted for her she would have won too, or republicans. Had .50% more voters showed to the polls she would have won, or .50% had stayed home.

Reality is she didn't get enough votes and no one is to blame.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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The Libertarian candidate, Jim Vein got 6,439 votes, but since Matheson just beat Love by 768 votes, she could easily have won had the Libertarian vote gone her way.
Maybe so, but the tea party candidates are not going to be able to change the GOP, perhaps it's time to start voting Libertarian. The GOP and the democrats are two sides of the same coin, both big gov't, we need change.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:12 PM
 
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The Libertarian candidate, Jim Vein got 6,439 votes, but since Matheson just beat Love by 768 votes, she could easily have won had the Libertarian vote gone her way.
Why are the Repubs acting as if the libertarians had an obligation to vote for Love? Maybe those libertarians are left leaning!
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Maybe so, but the tea party candidates are not going to be able to change the GOP, perhaps it's time to start voting Libertarian. The GOP and the democrats are two sides of the same coin, both big gov't, we need change.
I'm not going to argue with you about the tea party candidates being able to change the GOP, and I, for one, definitely wouldn't want them to. My sister kind of considers me a Libertarian right now, even though I've actually never voted Libertarian.

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Old 01-06-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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Why are the Repubs acting as if the libertarians had an obligation to vote for Love? Maybe those libertarians are left leaning!
Good question. When you finally figure it out, let me know. I could sort of be described as a left-leaning Libertarian (although I usually just consider myself to be an Independent), and I was for Matheson all the way.
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:55 PM
 
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Good question. When you finally figure it out, let me know. I could sort of be described as a left-leaning Libertarian (although I usually just consider myself to be an Independent), and I was for Matheson all the way.
Help me out here....is this district a mixture of inner city, suburban, and rural voters? I see that you're from SLC...are you from the inner city or the burbs?

I'm asking because although the state is humongous, you only have a few reps. So I assume that those districts must be very large and very mixed politically.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:05 PM
 
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Help me out here....is this district a mixture of inner city, suburban, and rural voters?
It encompasses parts of Salt Lake County, Utah County, Juab and Sanpete Counties. Salt Lake County is where Salt Lake City is located, and it's the most populous and diverse (politically, religiously, and ethnically) of any county in the state. Utah County is also pretty much suburban but very heavily Mormon. Juab and Sanpete counties are much more rural, also mostly Mormon. The district itself is geographically by far the smallest district in the state, but probably the most heavily populated.

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I see that you're from SLC...are you from the inner city or the burbs?
The burbs. I actually live in Cottonwood Heights, an incorated area about 15 miles from downtown Salt Lake City. The "inner city" (or what I would call Salt Lake City) proper is actually quite small. It's population is about 190,000. The metropolitan Salt Lake City area has a population of about 1.5 million. Generally speaking, the further away from Salt Lake City you get, the more heavily LDS and heavily Democratic the population.

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I'm asking because although the state is humongous, you only have a few reps. So I assume that those districts must be very large and very mixed politically.
Three of the districts are quite large. District 4 is small and considerably more mixed politically the any of the others (even though I suspect there are relatively few Democrats in Utah County).

Mia Love was the mayor of Saratogo Springs (population just under 18,000), which is located in Utah County, probably one of the most staunchy Republican counties in the United States. She was apparently very popular in her neck of the woods, but decidedly less so in the more moderate Salt Lake County.

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Old 01-06-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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Why are the Repubs acting as if the libertarians had an obligation to vote for Love? Maybe those libertarians are left leaning!
Or maybe those Libertarians are racist .......... oooo, now there's a thought.
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