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Old 12-25-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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Great job, Libertarians. What do you have to say for yourselves?
That fiscally conservative/socially liberal feel disconnected from Republicans.

And both Republicans and Democrats are parties of big government.

Choose the lesser evil.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Mia Love and the Democratic Attack Machine that... | Gather

This is why I am a Republican, not a Libertarian, even though I agree with 99.99 pct of libertarian views. Here we had a dynamic candidate who said that her favorite economist was Bastiat. And it appear she loses to a big gov't guy due to an alliance between Dems and Libertarians. She lost by less than 3000 votes, and the Libertarian candidate picked up 5700 votes.

Great job, Libertarians. What do you have to say for yourselves?
Utah's 4th congressional district is considered 61% Republican. She only gained 48% of the vote. She lost because the people of that district did not agree with her.

And i have not heard much of Jim Matheson, but considering he is in a district that red and continued to win, I would doubt he is "big government"

You mind showing your reasoning for calling him that ?
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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libertarians do not belong to republicans,
independents also do not belong to anyone people/we are individuals.

do not blame your loss on others,
it just means your candidate did not fit what the population wants.
blame yourself or society.

why did you not try wooing the lib vote then oh their ideologies do not match? then why should they vote for your candidate?

kinda dumb to force people to do what you want them to if they do not agree with you

republicans already kicked libertarians out of the party no?
so why are you blaming them now that you all kicked them out?

arrogant no?

just treat them/us like independents then.
next time find fiscal conservative/socially liberal candidates.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:09 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Since when is stopping the out of control cost of college by going back to Universities making the loans instead of government giving them away, extreme?
Since when is following the Constitution and allowing the states to decide how to run their school lunch program, extreme?
Since when is stopping people from profiting on the illegal act of crossing the borders without permission and jumping ahead of those that follow the rules, extreme?
Keep your head buried in the sand.
Right, to hell with established constitutional rights for immigrants! Oh, and way better we slash programs for job training and giving poor kids probably the only decent mail they get all day... than to have to increase taxes on the wealthiest 2%!
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Right, to hell with established constitutional rights for immigrants!
Illegals honey not immigrants, No one is calling for that but you. My comment which you missed even though it's in your post, is about the ones who enter this country illegally and have a baby for the sole purpose of citizenship.

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Oh, and way better we slash programs for job training and giving poor kids probably the only decent mail they get all day
No one is calling for cutting meals and job training but you honey. Read my post again after the booze wears off, then comment. Try to keep up next time.
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... than to have to increase taxes on the wealthiest 2%!
Now tell me why YOU think it is okay to steal others money for YOUR causes.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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That fiscally conservative/socially liberal feel disconnected from Republicans.

And both Republicans and Democrats are parties of big government.

Choose the lesser evil.
Yup. Back in the day, the Libertarians had a lot of liberals just as you describe in the party, but not anymore. Tolerance of smoking pot is not enough to win back all those liberals the party lost long ago.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:01 AM
 
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Why do people care so much about one candidate in one meaningless congressional district? Hundreds of Congressional candidates lost in November. Big deal. Why is Mia Love so important? Even if she'd won, she'd be a back bencher and hardly heard from.

What is this whole Mia Love obsession about?
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Utah's 4th congressional district is considered 61% Republican. She only gained 48% of the vote. She lost because the people of that district did not agree with her.

And i have not heard much of Jim Matheson, but considering he is in a district that red and continued to win, I would doubt he is "big government"

You mind showing your reasoning for calling him that ?
and take away about 1/2 of the Libartarian vote and she would have been an easy winner.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Why do people care so much about one candidate in one meaningless congressional district? Hundreds of Congressional candidates lost in November. Big deal. Why is Mia Love so important? Even if she'd won, she'd be a back bencher and hardly heard from.

What is this whole Mia Love obsession about?
you know the answer to that so why did you even ask?
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:19 AM
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Mia Love and the Democratic Attack Machine that... | Gather

This is why I am a Republican, not a Libertarian, even though I agree with 99.99 pct of libertarian views. Here we had a dynamic candidate who said that her favorite economist was Bastiat. And it appear she loses to a big gov't guy due to an alliance between Dems and Libertarians. She lost by less than 3000 votes, and the Libertarian candidate picked up 5700 votes.

Great job, Libertarians. What do you have to say for yourselves?
A lot of Libertarians are getting tired of voting for religious fundamentalists and teabaggers that try to masquerade as advocates of small government and expanded liberty.
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