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Old 12-26-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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we see it, we just disagree with banning it in all cases, Ron Paul isnt a libertarian by the way.
Excuse me? Ron Paul is a Republican and a member of the Libertarian party for over 50 years. He is considered the political voice of the modern libertarian movement.

Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He wants the government to get the hell out of the way. He doesn't think it's the Federal governments job to tell people how to live. He is against imperialism, which is the term you all have been searching for to define pro-war, pro-aggression...etc. He is a fiscal hawk which melds perfectly with the Libertarian mindset. He believes the FED should be audited and then abolished. He believes we should go back to a gold backed monetary system, with the benchmark price of global assets pegged to the global debt. In other words (for examples sake); if there was only 1 ounce of gold on earth, it would be worth the total debt of the earth. No more fiat currency, spend what you earn.

Ron Paul is America's leading voice for limited, constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, sound money, and a pro-American foreign policy.

You only need to read the articles on the landing page to understand that he is a Libertarian.

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A grand absurdity, a great deception, a delusion of momentous proportions based on preposterous notions and on ideas whose time should never have come.

Simplicity, grossly distorted and complicated.

Insanity, passed off as logic.

Grandiose schemes built on falsehoods with the morality of Ponzi and Madoff.

Evil described as virtue.

Ignorance pawned off as wisdom.

Destruction and impoverishment in the name of humanitarianism.

Violence, the tool of change.

Preventive wars used as the road to peace.

Tolerance delivered by government guns.

Reactionary views in the guise of progress.

An empire replacing the republic.

Slavery sold as liberty.

Excellence and virtue traded for mediocrity.

Socialism to save capitalism.

A government out of control, unrestrained by the constitution, the rule of law or morality. Bickering over petty politics as we descend into chaos. The philosophy that destroys us is not even defined.


Transcript:
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Paul is more of a Libertarian than most Libertarians, including myself.
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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So in other words, you have no explanation for why a candidate that has taken positions on most major issues that directly conflict with the Libertarian Party platform can be described as a pretty close match for libertarian voters.
On just three major Libertarian Party issues, she fails any rational test.

Gay marriage
Immigration and birthright citizenship
Marijuana legalization
You didn't respond to even one thing I posted; you just reiterate your bumper sticker talking points. Okay, I'll try to distill it down. If you are right, how is it that the #1, most prominent, most popular Libertarian, namely Ron Paul, is pro-life. Just how would you account for that?
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Old 12-26-2012, 04:54 PM
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You didn't respond to even one thing I posted; you just reiterate your bumper sticker talking points. Okay, I'll try to distill it down. If you are right, how is it that the #1, most prominent, most popular Libertarian, namely Ron Paul, is pro-life. Just how would you account for that?
Ron Paul is a Republican not a Libertarian. You can find the Libertarian platform on the party's website or study the positions of their most recent Presidential candidate (Gary Johnson) if you really want to know why neither Mia Love nor Ron Paul represent libertarian ideals.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Mia Love and the Democratic Attack Machine that... | Gather

This is why I am a Republican, not a Libertarian, even though I agree with 99.99 pct of libertarian views. Here we had a dynamic candidate who said that her favorite economist was Bastiat. And it appear she loses to a big gov't guy due to an alliance between Dems and Libertarians. She lost by less than 3000 votes, and the Libertarian candidate picked up 5700 votes.

Great job, Libertarians. What do you have to say for yourselves?
And Michelle Bachmann said hers was van Mises. She had no problem taking agriculture subsidies though.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:58 PM
 
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you know the answer to that so why did you even ask?
No...i don't know. Please tell me.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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Mia Love and the Democratic Attack Machine that... | Gather

This is why I am a Republican, not a Libertarian, even though I agree with 99.99 pct of libertarian views. Here we had a dynamic candidate who said that her favorite economist was Bastiat. And it appear she loses to a big gov't guy due to an alliance between Dems and Libertarians. She lost by less than 3000 votes, and the Libertarian candidate picked up 5700 votes.

Great job, Libertarians. What do you have to say for yourselves?
You will see more of this as the infighting within the Republican Party continues.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:56 PM
 
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You will see more of this as the infighting within the Republican Party continues.
It's not infighting possibly. There are Libertarians that are registered Libertarians and not just little l libertarians in the Republican party.

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Ron Paul is a Republican not a Libertarian. You can find the Libertarian platform on the party's website or study the positions of their most recent Presidential candidate (Gary Johnson) if you really want to know why neither Mia Love nor Ron Paul represent libertarian ideals.
Ron Paul represents the libertarian wing of the Republican party basically. There used to be a liberal wing "Nelson Rockerfeller" type of republican, but they are despised as RINO's now.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Ron Paul is a Republican not a Libertarian. You can find the Libertarian platform on the party's website or study the positions of their most recent Presidential candidate (Gary Johnson) if you really want to know why neither Mia Love nor Ron Paul represent libertarian ideals.

Wrong--Ron Paul is a Libertarian.
LP Monday Message: 10 Ron Paul questions | Libertarian Party

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3. Is Ron Paul a member of the LP?
While Ron Paul is a Republican Congressman, he is also an Honorary Lifetime Member of the Libertarian Party, and he will remain so unless he requests to have his membership terminated.
Party platforms mean almost nothing; Actually, perhaps it is time for parties to dump the whole 'platform' charade. Did you see the incident with Antonio Villaragosa regarding the Dem platform? Platforms have become a joke. Libertarianism is not as rigid as you portray. It's a pretty broad spectrum in itself.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Mia Love and the Democratic Attack Machine that... | Gather

This is why I am a Republican, not a Libertarian, even though I agree with 99.99 pct of libertarian views. Here we had a dynamic candidate who said that her favorite economist was Bastiat. And it appear she loses to a big gov't guy due to an alliance between Dems and Libertarians. She lost by less than 3000 votes, and the Libertarian candidate picked up 5700 votes.

Great job, Libertarians. What do you have to say for yourselves?
The black vote was against Mia Love because she is a Republican. And the black democrats ask why their are no black Republicans.. they don't support them that is why!!
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Excuse me? Ron Paul is a Republican and a member of the Libertarian party for over 50 years. He is considered the political voice of the modern libertarian movement.

Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is why you never use Wikipedia as a source



"Ronald Ernest "Ron" Paul (born August 20, 1935) is an American physician, author, and politician who has been serving as the U.S. Representative for Texas's 14th congressional district, which includes Galveston, since 1997. He is a three-time candidate for President of the United States, as a Libertarian in 1988 and as a Republican in 2008 and 2012. He is a member of the Libertarian Party[1] "

" References

^1. Ron Paul endorses Chuck Baldwin for president http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-23/ron-paul-endorses-chuck-baldwin-for-president/"

So Ron Paul is a libertarian based squarely on him endorsing Chuck Baldwin, LMFAO ROTF.

Please, dont even respond, you have owned yourself.
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