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Old 11-10-2012, 02:33 AM
 
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If you're a registered Republican in NY or a registered Democrat in AR going to vote is like throwing your ballot in the garbage, as the outcome of the election in either state is known in advance. I think the old state electoral college system should be turned into a district electoral college one. The electoral votes could be given according to the turnout in each district. For example, FL has 29 electoral votes, in elections like this one Obama could take like 18 and Romney 11 -as the Democrats always win in densely populated, urban areas. Still not fair, but better than the current system, where a candidate with 51 popular votes gets all the electoral ones.

If the change is made, it would encourage participation in the elections and the swing states wouldn't be the only ones that matter.
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:45 AM
 
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I'll go you even one better than that -- Eliminate the electoral college on the national level -- go only on the popular vote, but keep the results sealed until 100% of the reporting is completed. If the popular vote numbers can't be sealed during the voting process, then allow Hawaii, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, and California to vote a day before hand .. and, here's the kicker .. disallow any of the press to report any of it until the count is complete.
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:48 AM
 
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I'll go you even one better than that -- Eliminate the electoral college on the national level -- go only on the popular vote, but keep the results sealed until 100% of the reporting is completed. If the popular vote numbers can't be sealed during the voting process, then allow Hawaii, Alaska, Washington, Oregon, and California to vote a day before hand .. and, here's the kicker .. disallow any of the press to report any of it until the count is complete.
I agree with this too. Frankly, it's pretty unfair that a little % of voters from Ohio or Florida have in their hands the outcome of a Presidential election!
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:13 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Do you think the senate is a good thing? Why?

If you believe that each state should have equal representation in Congress through the senate, then shut the hell up. You don't understand what you're asking for.
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:25 AM
 
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Do you think the senate is a good thing? Why?

If you believe that each state should have equal representation in Congress through the senate, then shut the hell up. You don't understand what you're asking for.
... and if the Electoral College can't be eliminated, then they should at least do the proportional representation deal.

A 50 county state, with a relative population in each, with 45 red counties and 5 blue counties shouldn't go straight blue ...
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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... and if the Electoral College can't be eliminated, then they should at least do the proportional representation deal.

A 50 county state, with a relative population in each, with 45 red counties and 5 blue counties shouldn't go straight blue ...
Again, do you believe that Wyoming should receive exactly the same representation as California in the senate? Why?

If the senate is a good thing, then leave the electoral college alone.

If you think the senate is unnecessary, and the federal government should be a representation of the people, rather than the states. Then by all means, get rid of the electoral college.


I love the senate, I love the electoral college. Without the senate, who would give two ****s about what Wyoming wants?


We really have to ask ourselves. Are we a Union of states? Or are we a single nation? If we are a Union of states, keep the electoral college, even if it is imperfect. If we are a single nation, toss the college.

In my opinion, we are a Union of states, and I am terrified of the day when we become a single nation, with a national popular vote.
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