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Old 11-11-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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The Republican party needs to re brand their image. Just because the Dems are for something, does not mean Reps...need to be against it.

It was interesting to look at the electoral college votes and red vs. Blue states. Blue states were on the coast, red states, the interior.

We need a solid Republican governor from a red state, who is fiscal conservative. But stands firm on protecting rights of women and gays. Women want to make their own healthcare choices. Gay folks want to ger married....leave those issues out of government interference.
We had several of them in Illinois, but of course Illinois is a blue state. Our Republicans for the most part (though sadly this is changing)are the fiscal conservative, social liberal Republicans who are electable in this state.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Yes I am, as I want to cut wasteful spending.
Then you did not choose wisely by supporting Obama; he's a communist who will continue to run up the deficit and lie about the real inflation and unemployment numbers. I hope you don't expect the deficit to decrease or employment to increase after another 4 years of the commie-in-chief.

CPUSA was happy that Barry won!


Democracy comes out on top on Nov. 6 cpusa
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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The Republicans have a problem. It looks like many of them are starting to realize this. The basic problem is demograpics. The country is changing but the Republicans have not changed with it. While the country is moving more liberal, the Republicans have moved far to the right. The country is becoming more brown and black while the Republicans only appeal to white males, southerners and the elderly. Not exactly a growing demographic. Here are 3 things the Republicans must do:
1. They must change their stand on immigration. They need to drop opposition to amnesty, especially for illegals that were brought here as children. They must at least allow a path to legal status such as Permanent Residency if not citizenship. This issue is killing the Republicans with Hispanics and it is going to be much harder in the future to put together an electorial college map without Hispanics.
2. The Republicans must drop their silly anti abortion stand. Abortion has been fully legal for almost 40 years. It is here to stay. All the Republicans do by trying to outlaw or restrict abortion is make lawyers rich when they get hauled into court and make women voters run like hell to the Democrats.
3. They need to drop the anti gay silliness. Gays are here to stay. They are not going to switch to hetrosexual because some people don't like them. Not only are the Republicans running off millions of gays but also their friends and family members. The GOP should announce today that they will work to repeal DOMA and drop opposition to gay rights and gay marriage.
You are completely wrong on number one. No one should pander to hispanic nationals in the middle of a recession. When millions of Americans are unemployed it is disgusting to let millions of Mexicans (most of whom do not speak English or even have a high school diploma) stay here. The kids can go home with their parents. Hispanics who put the economic desires of their fellow hispanics above the needs of their fellow Americans should also leave.

Number one should really about taxing the elite. Our tax policy should punish people with offshore bank accounts like Mittens. If he prefers to keep his money in Switzerland or the Cayman Islands he should live in the same country as his money.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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what abortion limitations have been passed?

what "gay rights" have been denied by congress?

will the fearmongering ever stop?

most conservatives are a LOT MORE WORRIED about the economic issues plaguing this country, and how we are going to survive as a nation than to worry about whether some woman wants to risk her life with an abortion, or some gay wants a boyfriend/girlfriend.

THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES IN THIS COUNTRY, and we actually get it.
Have you not been paying attention? Most of the anti-abortion, anti-gay activity is at the state level, but Akin introduced a ton of anti-abortion bills in the House before he committed political suicide with his rape comments, and Paul Ryan backed him up.

Paul Ryan: ‘No Splitting Hairs Over Rape’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

State legislatures have introduced over 900 bills restricting abortion. How many do you think were introduced by Democrats?

State Legislative Trends: Hostility to Abortion Rights Increases

As for gays, have you forgotten DOMA? Every time there is a bill or proposition to give gays marriage rights or ban discrimination against them, the conservarive groups come out of the woodwork to howl and scream about attacking family values and traditional marriage.

I'm sure these issues aren't a big concern to a lot of conservatives, but for a lot of very vocal activist social conservatives they certainly are. If these people don't represent conservative views, then conservatives need to step up and actively rebuke them, not pretend they don't exist.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Then you did not choose wisely by supporting Obama; he's a communist who will continue to run up the deficit
Actually if you actually look up the definition of communism, Obama's stances don't match it.

Furthermore, statistical data has demonstrated that Romney TOO would have continued to run up the deficit, especially since he was calling for obscene increases in defense spending, to the tune of $2 trillion dollars. Romney's plan was going to run up the deficit, so it's bogus to imply that Obama will and Romney wouldn't. BOTH will run it up, but the difference is Obama has said he wants to use the borrowed money to invest in nation building in America- infrastructure, whereas, again, Romney wants to use the borrowed money to jack up defense spending well beyond even what the military says is required to defend America.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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Then you did not choose wisely by supporting Obama; he's a communist who will continue to run up the deficit and lie about the real inflation and unemployment numbers. I hope you don't expect the deficit to decrease or employment to increase after another 4 years of the commie-in-chief.

CPUSA was happy that Barry won!


Democracy comes out on top on Nov. 6 cpusa
Why don't you take the time to learn what a Communist actually is before you go around accusing someone who isn't of being one and making a fool out of yourself?

Protip: It's not "Anyone with political views to the left of Ron Paul" or "Anyone with political views I don't like."

There actually is a Communist party in the US. Obama isn't in it.

Home cpusa
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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An unskilled - even a skilled - worker from south of the border doesn't really have a legal path on his/her own. And those are the ones we're mostly talking about, right?
Unless he can demonstrate that he speaks, reads and writes English, has job skills, at least a high school diploma, no ongoing medical conditions and at least some capital he really shouldn't have any right to come here. I'm sick of his fellow hispanics who argue that our immigration laws should be all about making life easier for hispanics.

If he can't come here legally he should stay home. He has no inherent moral or legal right to argue otherwise.

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What is it about gays and abortion not being the damned fed government's business that's so hard to understand?

Most conservatives couldn't personally care less if you abort or gay yourself to death.....it's NONE OF OUR BUSINESS and we don't want to hear about it. Or pay for it.

Get it now?
Great. Then stop trying to pass laws against abortion and punishing gay people. And stop claiming that conservatives are the only people who pay taxes.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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The Republicans have a problem. It looks like many of them are starting to realize this. The basic problem is demograpics. The country is changing but the Republicans have not changed with it. While the country is moving more liberal, the Republicans have moved far to the right. The country is becoming more brown and black while the Republicans only appeal to white males, southerners and the elderly. Not exactly a growing demographic. Here are 3 things the Republicans must do:
1. They must change their stand on immigration. They need to drop opposition to amnesty, especially for illegals that were brought here as children. They must at least allow a path to legal status such as Permanent Residency if not citizenship. This issue is killing the Republicans with Hispanics and it is going to be much harder in the future to put together an electorial college map without Hispanics.
2. The Republicans must drop their silly anti abortion stand. Abortion has been fully legal for almost 40 years. It is here to stay. All the Republicans do by trying to outlaw or restrict abortion is make lawyers rich when they get hauled into court and make women voters run like hell to the Democrats.
3. They need to drop the anti gay silliness. Gays are here to stay. They are not going to switch to hetrosexual because some people don't like them. Not only are the Republicans running off millions of gays but also their friends and family members. The GOP should announce today that they will work to repeal DOMA and drop opposition to gay rights and gay marriage.
The changing demographics are directly due to illegal immigration. Why should we embrace or pander to those who think their ethnic group should be above our immigration laws? So in otherwords to gain the Hispanic vote a politician has to thumb their noses at our immigration laws? Aren't Hispanic citizens obligated to respect our laws just like everyone else? It doesn't matter if these so-called kids were brought here by their parents. Allowing them to stay is rewarding their parents for having broken our immigration laws and puts them in direct competition for American jobs. The whole family needs to go back where they belong in their own country and Hispanics need to stop blackmailing our politicians for votes.
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Allowing them to stay is rewarding their parents for having broken our immigration laws and puts them in direct competition for American jobs.
If an American is competing for this level of job, they have far deeper issues than the citizenship of the others seeking the job.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: New York City
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So if Republicans get as trashy and sinful as the Democrats, they can win in a United States election. Wow!

I would rather be right than be president. Is that clear enough? All Republicans are winners just by being who we are.
Republican are just as sinful, the difference is that they feel guilty about it.
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